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    Apparently if you call an NBA star a nigger that is racism and an example of a 'plantation mentality'. It warrants 24/7 news coverage and swift action by local, state, federal, and private governing bodies. However, if you treat blacks like niggers by locking helpless black kids in drug infested communities with horrible schools and sub-standard housing that is acceptable. Hell, you can even blame the kids in the latter case. Unlike Oprah, who is a nitwit, I don't consider insults hurled at famous black mutli-millionaires to be an example of 'plantation mentality'. When I think of 'plantation mentality' I start to think about black children in segregated hellhole ghettos - children who live in constant fear and who are abused by all strata of society and left without any recourse. This whole drama is multimillionaires fighting one another. It's time we recognize - blacks and whites recognize - that none of the people who have a stake in this battle are on any of our sides. These guys would run over a white child as quickly as a black child and they are utterly disinterested in the plight of people who are really suffering. A couple of million in fines for a guy that owns the team (valued at 300 million) means he took less than a 1% hit - less than a 1% hit for being worse than Hitler. The outrage doesn't even match the punishment - everyone's hair on fire for a 1% hit. I'd gladly pay 1% of my salary to walk around my job and say whatever I want to say. So it is hypocrisy from one end to the other. I might move to Canada - do they take people who are tired of the USA?

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      Apparently if you call an NBA star a nigger that is racism and an example of a 'plantation mentality'. It warrants 24/7 news coverage and swift action by local, state, federal, and private governing bodies. However, if you treat blacks like niggers by locking helpless black kids in drug infested communities with horrible schools and sub-standard housing that is acceptable. Hell, you can even blame the kids in the latter case. Unlike Oprah, who is a nitwit, I don't consider insults hurled at famous black mutli-millionaires to be an example of 'plantation mentality'. When I think of 'plantation mentality' I start to think about black children in segregated hellhole ghettos - children who live in constant fear and who are abused by all strata of society and left without any recourse. This whole drama is multimillionaires fighting one another. It's time we recognize - blacks and whites recognize - that none of the people who have a stake in this battle are on any of our sides. These guys would run over a white child as quickly as a black child and they are utterly disinterested in the plight of people who are really suffering. A couple of million in fines for a guy that owns the team (valued at 300 million) means he took less than a 1% hit - less than a 1% hit for being worse than Hitler. The outrage doesn't even match the punishment - everyone's hair on fire for a 1% hit. I'd gladly pay 1% of my salary to walk around my job and say whatever I want to say. So it is hypocrisy from one end to the other. I might move to Canada - do they take people who are tired of the USA?

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      I find US citizens to be over sensitive with regards to vocabulary. They need to understand that context is equally important if not more. Many of US citizens are, apparently, also hell bent on treating absolutely everything to racism. They have forgotten that specifying characteristic of a person is not racism. Discrimination based on said characteristic is.

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        Apparently if you call an NBA star a nigger that is racism and an example of a 'plantation mentality'. It warrants 24/7 news coverage and swift action by local, state, federal, and private governing bodies. However, if you treat blacks like niggers by locking helpless black kids in drug infested communities with horrible schools and sub-standard housing that is acceptable. Hell, you can even blame the kids in the latter case. Unlike Oprah, who is a nitwit, I don't consider insults hurled at famous black mutli-millionaires to be an example of 'plantation mentality'. When I think of 'plantation mentality' I start to think about black children in segregated hellhole ghettos - children who live in constant fear and who are abused by all strata of society and left without any recourse. This whole drama is multimillionaires fighting one another. It's time we recognize - blacks and whites recognize - that none of the people who have a stake in this battle are on any of our sides. These guys would run over a white child as quickly as a black child and they are utterly disinterested in the plight of people who are really suffering. A couple of million in fines for a guy that owns the team (valued at 300 million) means he took less than a 1% hit - less than a 1% hit for being worse than Hitler. The outrage doesn't even match the punishment - everyone's hair on fire for a 1% hit. I'd gladly pay 1% of my salary to walk around my job and say whatever I want to say. So it is hypocrisy from one end to the other. I might move to Canada - do they take people who are tired of the USA?

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        Oddly enough, I moved from Canada to the United States, and, while I don't agree with everything here, I much prefer the political climate here to Canada's. Tim

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          Oddly enough, I moved from Canada to the United States, and, while I don't agree with everything here, I much prefer the political climate here to Canada's. Tim

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          I wish you'd elaborate on that. That could be really interesting.

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            I find US citizens to be over sensitive with regards to vocabulary. They need to understand that context is equally important if not more. Many of US citizens are, apparently, also hell bent on treating absolutely everything to racism. They have forgotten that specifying characteristic of a person is not racism. Discrimination based on said characteristic is.

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            If I call my wife a bitch it doesn't mean I hate women. It means I'm angry. In our sound bite society people don't care about context anymore. Basically, we're all primed to fight and since all of our basic needs are met we have to fight over meaningless stuff. It is pathetic.

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              If I call my wife a bitch it doesn't mean I hate women. It means I'm angry. In our sound bite society people don't care about context anymore. Basically, we're all primed to fight and since all of our basic needs are met we have to fight over meaningless stuff. It is pathetic.

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              MehGerbil wrote:

              f I call my wife a bitch it doesn't mean I hate women.

              Yeah, it means you are dying in 3,2,1, BANG.

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              • L Lost User

                I wish you'd elaborate on that. That could be really interesting.

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                In the '80s, I was at a friend's house. His Dad was a police officer. I asked him, "The charter of rights and freedoms says that sexual discrimination is illegal. However, men are allowed to go topless in public, but women aren't - that is indecent exposure. Are they on a collision course?" I was told, "Yes, they are on a collision course." Well, the supreme court declare the indecent exposure law unconsitutional: result, women can go topless in Canada in public. I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach. And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

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                  In the '80s, I was at a friend's house. His Dad was a police officer. I asked him, "The charter of rights and freedoms says that sexual discrimination is illegal. However, men are allowed to go topless in public, but women aren't - that is indecent exposure. Are they on a collision course?" I was told, "Yes, they are on a collision course." Well, the supreme court declare the indecent exposure law unconsitutional: result, women can go topless in Canada in public. I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach. And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

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                  Tim Carmichael wrote:

                  And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

                  I dunno... how cute is your sister? Actually, I don't want to see the men topless. I didn't know it was legal to be topless in Canada. The only saving grace is that it's cold up there most of the time.

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                    Apparently if you call an NBA star a nigger that is racism and an example of a 'plantation mentality'. It warrants 24/7 news coverage and swift action by local, state, federal, and private governing bodies. However, if you treat blacks like niggers by locking helpless black kids in drug infested communities with horrible schools and sub-standard housing that is acceptable. Hell, you can even blame the kids in the latter case. Unlike Oprah, who is a nitwit, I don't consider insults hurled at famous black mutli-millionaires to be an example of 'plantation mentality'. When I think of 'plantation mentality' I start to think about black children in segregated hellhole ghettos - children who live in constant fear and who are abused by all strata of society and left without any recourse. This whole drama is multimillionaires fighting one another. It's time we recognize - blacks and whites recognize - that none of the people who have a stake in this battle are on any of our sides. These guys would run over a white child as quickly as a black child and they are utterly disinterested in the plight of people who are really suffering. A couple of million in fines for a guy that owns the team (valued at 300 million) means he took less than a 1% hit - less than a 1% hit for being worse than Hitler. The outrage doesn't even match the punishment - everyone's hair on fire for a 1% hit. I'd gladly pay 1% of my salary to walk around my job and say whatever I want to say. So it is hypocrisy from one end to the other. I might move to Canada - do they take people who are tired of the USA?

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                    The US is obsessed with racism. That won't change.

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                      In the '80s, I was at a friend's house. His Dad was a police officer. I asked him, "The charter of rights and freedoms says that sexual discrimination is illegal. However, men are allowed to go topless in public, but women aren't - that is indecent exposure. Are they on a collision course?" I was told, "Yes, they are on a collision course." Well, the supreme court declare the indecent exposure law unconsitutional: result, women can go topless in Canada in public. I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach. And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

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                      Tim Carmichael wrote:

                      women can go topless in Canada in public.

                      How come Charlie Sheen never moved to Canada?

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                        In the '80s, I was at a friend's house. His Dad was a police officer. I asked him, "The charter of rights and freedoms says that sexual discrimination is illegal. However, men are allowed to go topless in public, but women aren't - that is indecent exposure. Are they on a collision course?" I was told, "Yes, they are on a collision course." Well, the supreme court declare the indecent exposure law unconsitutional: result, women can go topless in Canada in public. I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach. And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

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                        In NY State, the State Supreme Court, in a moment of Blessed Clarity decreed that Woman may go topless anywhere men can. Voyeuristic considerations aside, I applaud the law. Your worry:

                        Tim Carmichael wrote:

                        I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach.

                        is actually pointing out the real problem. There is nothing whatsoever obscene about a topless woman. The worry you have about such exposure is really how you'd react. Where I live (near beaches), the women going topless doesn't disrupt a thing. More news: Sex is Not Sin (original or otherwise). It is following the very first decree by deity to creation, which is Be Fruitful and Multiply. Interestingly, all species, except ours, have no problems with being in the open. It's only 'dirty' because some sick mind made it that way. So following the bible can get you arrested.

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                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          In the '80s, I was at a friend's house. His Dad was a police officer. I asked him, "The charter of rights and freedoms says that sexual discrimination is illegal. However, men are allowed to go topless in public, but women aren't - that is indecent exposure. Are they on a collision course?" I was told, "Yes, they are on a collision course." Well, the supreme court declare the indecent exposure law unconsitutional: result, women can go topless in Canada in public. I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach. And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Well, just because it's legal does not mean everyone's gonna do it. I lived in Toronto for over an year and have visited Canada multiple times after that. I have never encountered a topless woman in public.

                          Regards, Nish


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                            I find US citizens to be over sensitive with regards to vocabulary. They need to understand that context is equally important if not more. Many of US citizens are, apparently, also hell bent on treating absolutely everything to racism. They have forgotten that specifying characteristic of a person is not racism. Discrimination based on said characteristic is.

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                            Quote:

                            I find US citizens to be over sensitive with regards to vocabulary.

                            I disagree. It is our media that has made it this way. Most people wouldn't have cared.

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                              Tim Carmichael wrote:

                              women can go topless in Canada in public.

                              How come Charlie Sheen never moved to Canada?

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              d@nish wrote:

                              How come Charlie Sheen never moved to Canada?

                              Because Charlie Sheen does not have to go to Canada to have topless woman around him. Heck, he could do that in Saudi Arabia if he wanted to.

                              Regards, Nish


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                                In NY State, the State Supreme Court, in a moment of Blessed Clarity decreed that Woman may go topless anywhere men can. Voyeuristic considerations aside, I applaud the law. Your worry:

                                Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach.

                                is actually pointing out the real problem. There is nothing whatsoever obscene about a topless woman. The worry you have about such exposure is really how you'd react. Where I live (near beaches), the women going topless doesn't disrupt a thing. More news: Sex is Not Sin (original or otherwise). It is following the very first decree by deity to creation, which is Be Fruitful and Multiply. Interestingly, all species, except ours, have no problems with being in the open. It's only 'dirty' because some sick mind made it that way. So following the bible can get you arrested.

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                :rolleyes:

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  In NY State, the State Supreme Court, in a moment of Blessed Clarity decreed that Woman may go topless anywhere men can. Voyeuristic considerations aside, I applaud the law. Your worry:

                                  Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                  I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach.

                                  is actually pointing out the real problem. There is nothing whatsoever obscene about a topless woman. The worry you have about such exposure is really how you'd react. Where I live (near beaches), the women going topless doesn't disrupt a thing. More news: Sex is Not Sin (original or otherwise). It is following the very first decree by deity to creation, which is Be Fruitful and Multiply. Interestingly, all species, except ours, have no problems with being in the open. It's only 'dirty' because some sick mind made it that way. So following the bible can get you arrested.

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Forbidding sex in public has nothing to do with sex being shameful or wrong. It has everything to do with protecting other people - it is a courtesy. Unlike animals, we people have a tendency to get jealous and have problems with envy. With that in mind, I don't care to see two college kids with perfect bodies having sex on the lawn of the administration building during lunch when my wife and I have imperfect bodies and we're both a full work day ahead of us before we could get around to our imperfect sex. Nudity laws are about courtesy - it is the same reason why it is considered rude for millionaires to walk around with a placard on their chests announcing their bank balances.

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                                    Quote:

                                    I find US citizens to be over sensitive with regards to vocabulary.

                                    I disagree. It is our media that has made it this way. Most people wouldn't have cared.

                                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                    Well, as an outsider, I was scared of saying anything. All I had on mind was, "Don't say anything remotely related to color and don't get shot."

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                                      In NY State, the State Supreme Court, in a moment of Blessed Clarity decreed that Woman may go topless anywhere men can. Voyeuristic considerations aside, I applaud the law. Your worry:

                                      Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                      I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach.

                                      is actually pointing out the real problem. There is nothing whatsoever obscene about a topless woman. The worry you have about such exposure is really how you'd react. Where I live (near beaches), the women going topless doesn't disrupt a thing. More news: Sex is Not Sin (original or otherwise). It is following the very first decree by deity to creation, which is Be Fruitful and Multiply. Interestingly, all species, except ours, have no problems with being in the open. It's only 'dirty' because some sick mind made it that way. So following the bible can get you arrested.

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      There is a famous (or notorious) lady in new York city who goes around topless, attracts confrontation, and then gets featured in the news. Restaurants won the legal right to kick her out as it's a private business and so their dress code rules are legally affective. She is a feminist propagandist. :-)

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                      • T Tim Carmichael

                                        In the '80s, I was at a friend's house. His Dad was a police officer. I asked him, "The charter of rights and freedoms says that sexual discrimination is illegal. However, men are allowed to go topless in public, but women aren't - that is indecent exposure. Are they on a collision course?" I was told, "Yes, they are on a collision course." Well, the supreme court declare the indecent exposure law unconsitutional: result, women can go topless in Canada in public. I do not want my children exposed to topless women, so I can't go to a public beach. And, do any of want to see our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers walking around topless for all to see?

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                                        Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                        I do not want my children exposed to topless women,

                                        So you didn't allow your wife to breast-feed her babies then?

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                                          Apparently if you call an NBA star a nigger that is racism and an example of a 'plantation mentality'. It warrants 24/7 news coverage and swift action by local, state, federal, and private governing bodies. However, if you treat blacks like niggers by locking helpless black kids in drug infested communities with horrible schools and sub-standard housing that is acceptable. Hell, you can even blame the kids in the latter case. Unlike Oprah, who is a nitwit, I don't consider insults hurled at famous black mutli-millionaires to be an example of 'plantation mentality'. When I think of 'plantation mentality' I start to think about black children in segregated hellhole ghettos - children who live in constant fear and who are abused by all strata of society and left without any recourse. This whole drama is multimillionaires fighting one another. It's time we recognize - blacks and whites recognize - that none of the people who have a stake in this battle are on any of our sides. These guys would run over a white child as quickly as a black child and they are utterly disinterested in the plight of people who are really suffering. A couple of million in fines for a guy that owns the team (valued at 300 million) means he took less than a 1% hit - less than a 1% hit for being worse than Hitler. The outrage doesn't even match the punishment - everyone's hair on fire for a 1% hit. I'd gladly pay 1% of my salary to walk around my job and say whatever I want to say. So it is hypocrisy from one end to the other. I might move to Canada - do they take people who are tired of the USA?

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                                          If this was the soapbox I would point out that any criticism of our current president is considered racism. Thus the people yelling the racism claim are propagating racism as criticizing the president should be our right.

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