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  • R Rage

    The phones would become self-aware and go looking for each other, then going in a fight where they would try and chop off their antennas using light sabers. There can be only one.

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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    BotCar
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    I hope the elder doesn't kill the junior. Paradoxes are unpleasant.

    What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Probably depends who wrote the software: in theory it's not just the SIM, it's the IMEI which is unique to the phone which should be the problem: it's what the base stations use to ID the phone hardware (you don't need a SIM to make emergency calls, but you do need an IMEI). In theory, duplicate IMEI == shenanigans == no service. But...do you trust developers? :laugh: [edit]Corrected EMIE to IMEI (International Mobile station Equipment Identity) :O - Thanks to Agent__007 [/edit]

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      But...do you trust developers?

      Sure I trust developers. I've never met a developer who couldn't be trusted to create bugs. ;P

      What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Probably depends who wrote the software: in theory it's not just the SIM, it's the IMEI which is unique to the phone which should be the problem: it's what the base stations use to ID the phone hardware (you don't need a SIM to make emergency calls, but you do need an IMEI). In theory, duplicate IMEI == shenanigans == no service. But...do you trust developers? :laugh: [edit]Corrected EMIE to IMEI (International Mobile station Equipment Identity) :O - Thanks to Agent__007 [/edit]

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        IMIE

        You should probably add this to your profile:

        OriginalGriff's profile:

        ...
        Has problems spelling the word "the".
        Has problems spelling the word "IMEI".
        ...

        :laugh:

        Whether I think I can, or think I can't, I am always bloody right!

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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          IMIE

          You should probably add this to your profile:

          OriginalGriff's profile:

          ...
          Has problems spelling the word "the".
          Has problems spelling the word "IMEI".
          ...

          :laugh:

          Whether I think I can, or think I can't, I am always bloody right!

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          OriginalGriff
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          If I included the whole list of words I have difficulty spelling... :sigh:

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          • B BotCar

            If, through some SciFi means (such as time travel), I manage to make an exact copy of my cellphone (including SIM card) and someone were to call me, what would happen? Would both ring? Would the first one the service provider detect ring? Would the service provider, upon detecting two devices with identical SIM cards, reason that there is some shenanigans going on and block them both? Just curious.

            What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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            Lost User
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            BotCar wrote:

            someone were to call me

            I think your really pushing the boundaries of believability here.

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            • B BotCar

              If, through some SciFi means (such as time travel), I manage to make an exact copy of my cellphone (including SIM card) and someone were to call me, what would happen? Would both ring? Would the first one the service provider detect ring? Would the service provider, upon detecting two devices with identical SIM cards, reason that there is some shenanigans going on and block them both? Just curious.

              What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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              On my phone, if I ring my own number I get through to my voicemal

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                On my phone, if I ring my own number I get through to my voicemal

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                hairy_hats
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                Chris Quinn wrote:

                voicemal

                Is that some sort of throat infection?

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                • H hairy_hats

                  Chris Quinn wrote:

                  voicemal

                  Is that some sort of throat infection?

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                  Chris Quinn
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                  No, it swears at me!

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                  • B BotCar

                    If, through some SciFi means (such as time travel), I manage to make an exact copy of my cellphone (including SIM card) and someone were to call me, what would happen? Would both ring? Would the first one the service provider detect ring? Would the service provider, upon detecting two devices with identical SIM cards, reason that there is some shenanigans going on and block them both? Just curious.

                    What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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                    There are several car brands that before the Bluetooth ruled the world they offered to use an exact copy of your SIM card to insert it in your car. When anyone called you then car and cell phone rang. I guess this happens with two cell phones and with a cellphone and a car. Given the previous situation the first to answer was the one getting the call. Hope this helps! :thumbsup:

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                    • J Joan M

                      There are several car brands that before the Bluetooth ruled the world they offered to use an exact copy of your SIM card to insert it in your car. When anyone called you then car and cell phone rang. I guess this happens with two cell phones and with a cellphone and a car. Given the previous situation the first to answer was the one getting the call. Hope this helps! :thumbsup:

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                      BotCar
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                      That's pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing. I suppose that there is still enough of those cars around that the service providers cannot flag duplicate IMSI numbers for shenanigans. Except if they have a policy by which you have to notify them in advance to have your IMSI white-listed for duplicates.

                      What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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