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  • D David Wulff

    ...how political the message voting system has become of late. It is not at all uncommon now to see a two person conversation about pretty much any controversial topic being voted 1-5-1-5-1-5-1-5... Some people have started using the voting to simply downgrade those who have differing views, rather than rating for the quality of the content. Even jokes made in good humour about characters like Bush or current events like Iraq (and I saw a couple when the SuperBowl was being discussed a few weeks ago too) are being voted in this way. It's like a character slurring match at a political debate. "I like you better than you so nuuuuur (sticks tongue out)". Now I know CodeProject has some fourteen years old members who could be excused for behaving so childishly, but there aren’t that many of them and most of them are more interested in learning programming, interacting with other cultures and watching the giant social ant farm that is the Lounge and SoapBox. I could be fooled into thinking they were voting like this were it not for the fact most fourteen year olds are more interested in that Pam and Tommy video than world leaders and events. When I visit the handful of forums here I do pretty much every afternoon I don’t have the time, the means, nor the sheer will power to read through every message, so when it started out the voting ideas was great – I could just skim read the first couple of messages in a topic and then jump to all the good ones. Admittedly I would even read all the poor ones too if the topic interested me. Now it is very hard to choose when some topics have eighty percent of their messages coloured like a sunburnt zebra. Maybe I am just being a contemptuous young so and so (and I don't doubt that for a minute ;)), but I'm turning all my filters up to "very high" and getting shot of the whole idea; it's worthless when you don’t know which votes to trust. Q: What's grey and blue and read all over? A: A CodeProject discussion on politics.

    David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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    Tim Smith
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    *shrug* If someone says something really intelligent, I vote it up. If someone says something really stupid, I vote it down. If I remember correctly, that is what the voting system is for. If not, then Chris should just remove 1-3 and only leave 4 and 5. Thus, only message can be voted up. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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      BTW, I made up the George Bush guy, but I/he didn't give you a 1. I don't know who did. I was originally going to reply "I think this guy gave you a one" with a Link( I refuse to say clickety, must be some British term:-D) to user named George Bush which I thought I saw a profile for him a couple weeks back but there wasn't any profiles. So I decided to create my own GW. But I thought it would be funny, and I needed some material for what to say. I mainly made it because no one else had made him. PS. Before others get pissed off/flame me, lighten up, every class needs a clown;P Come on, that picture of him, in his profile, you laughed I know you did. Later,
      JoeSox
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      LOL, "God" is my account. I reserved that once as a joke and didn't use it. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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      • D David Wulff

        ...how political the message voting system has become of late. It is not at all uncommon now to see a two person conversation about pretty much any controversial topic being voted 1-5-1-5-1-5-1-5... Some people have started using the voting to simply downgrade those who have differing views, rather than rating for the quality of the content. Even jokes made in good humour about characters like Bush or current events like Iraq (and I saw a couple when the SuperBowl was being discussed a few weeks ago too) are being voted in this way. It's like a character slurring match at a political debate. "I like you better than you so nuuuuur (sticks tongue out)". Now I know CodeProject has some fourteen years old members who could be excused for behaving so childishly, but there aren’t that many of them and most of them are more interested in learning programming, interacting with other cultures and watching the giant social ant farm that is the Lounge and SoapBox. I could be fooled into thinking they were voting like this were it not for the fact most fourteen year olds are more interested in that Pam and Tommy video than world leaders and events. When I visit the handful of forums here I do pretty much every afternoon I don’t have the time, the means, nor the sheer will power to read through every message, so when it started out the voting ideas was great – I could just skim read the first couple of messages in a topic and then jump to all the good ones. Admittedly I would even read all the poor ones too if the topic interested me. Now it is very hard to choose when some topics have eighty percent of their messages coloured like a sunburnt zebra. Maybe I am just being a contemptuous young so and so (and I don't doubt that for a minute ;)), but I'm turning all my filters up to "very high" and getting shot of the whole idea; it's worthless when you don’t know which votes to trust. Q: What's grey and blue and read all over? A: A CodeProject discussion on politics.

        David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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        Domenic Denicola
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        David Wulff wrote: Now I know CodeProject has some fourteen years old members who could be excused for behaving so childishly, but there aren’t that many of them and most of them are more interested in learning programming, interacting with other cultures and watching the giant social ant farm that is the Lounge and SoapBox. I could be fooled into thinking they were voting like this were it not for the fact most fourteen year olds are more interested in that Pam and Tommy video than world leaders and events. I think it worthy to point out that most fourteen year olds who visit a programming site are genuinely intelligent and mature people, such as myself and at least David Stone (who's now actually 16, I believe). Rather, I would imagine the immature behavior more likely comes from idiots of any age, who have never actually developed a sense of maturity and never will.

        -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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          David Wulff wrote: Now I know CodeProject has some fourteen years old members who could be excused for behaving so childishly, but there aren’t that many of them and most of them are more interested in learning programming, interacting with other cultures and watching the giant social ant farm that is the Lounge and SoapBox. I could be fooled into thinking they were voting like this were it not for the fact most fourteen year olds are more interested in that Pam and Tommy video than world leaders and events. I think it worthy to point out that most fourteen year olds who visit a programming site are genuinely intelligent and mature people, such as myself and at least David Stone (who's now actually 16, I believe). Rather, I would imagine the immature behavior more likely comes from idiots of any age, who have never actually developed a sense of maturity and never will.

          -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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          Oh I know, that was what I was supposed to be saying. :~

          David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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            *shrug* If someone says something really intelligent, I vote it up. If someone says something really stupid, I vote it down. If I remember correctly, that is what the voting system is for. If not, then Chris should just remove 1-3 and only leave 4 and 5. Thus, only message can be voted up. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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            Tim Smith wrote: If someone says something really intelligent, I vote it up. If someone says something really stupid, I vote it down. If I remember correctly, that is what the voting system is for. Yes I agree with you, totally, but lately some people haven't been voting based not on the quality of a message's content but on whether or not they agree with it. Considering CodeProject is an international site with members of just about every viewpoint possible, I don't think it is a Good Thing™ that people are making such obvious assertions of the holier than thou attitude. Some people could be genuinely offended by that, aside from it making the message colouring essentially useless to anybody but the voters themselves.

            David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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            • T Tim Smith

              LOL, "God" is my account. I reserved that once as a joke and didn't use it. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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              JoeSox
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              Tim Smith wrote: "God" is my account. :-D post the link I tried browsing but I only got to "Page 3 of 19" for the search results ":eek: Later,
              JoeSox
              www.joeswammi.com Untitled[^] | GWB CP Profile[^]

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              • D David Wulff

                Tim Smith wrote: If someone says something really intelligent, I vote it up. If someone says something really stupid, I vote it down. If I remember correctly, that is what the voting system is for. Yes I agree with you, totally, but lately some people haven't been voting based not on the quality of a message's content but on whether or not they agree with it. Considering CodeProject is an international site with members of just about every viewpoint possible, I don't think it is a Good Thing™ that people are making such obvious assertions of the holier than thou attitude. Some people could be genuinely offended by that, aside from it making the message colouring essentially useless to anybody but the voters themselves.

                David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                Tim Smith
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                I haven't seen much of that. But if someone was so inclined, they could accuse me of doing it. However, some people vote up the DUMBEST messages. Remember the thread about the Canadian from India who got sent back? I posted a message that just said "Bastards. No more needs to be said." (Or something like that.) I think 1 or 2 people gave it a five. It was a totally mindless and pretty stupid post. It was nothing more than a statement of position. But hell, it got a 5 or two. I laughed when I saw it. Finally, someone came along a voted it down. What I hope is that people realize the difference between a message that is just a mindless statement of political position and a message that actually adds something of merit to the debate. All too often I see message such as "no war for oil" get voted up even though they have no basis in economic or logical reasoning. They are just nice 5 second sound bites and don't add anything to the discussion. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                • J JoeSox

                  Tim Smith wrote: "God" is my account. :-D post the link I tried browsing but I only got to "Page 3 of 19" for the search results ":eek: Later,
                  JoeSox
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                  http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?id=%2019762[^] See, god is from the U.S.. :) BTW: He is a sysadmin :cool: Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                  • T Tim Smith

                    http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?id=%2019762[^] See, god is from the U.S.. :) BTW: He is a sysadmin :cool: Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                    JoeSox
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                    If God posts a message, he could have his own messageboard:-D I would love to speak with God:laugh: Later,
                    JoeSox
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                    • T Tim Smith

                      http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?id=%2019762[^] See, god is from the U.S.. :) BTW: He is a sysadmin :cool: Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                      if god is all-powerful, can he post a message that he himself cannot delete? -c

                      Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

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                      • D David Wulff

                        Oh I know, that was what I was supposed to be saying. :~

                        David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                        Domenic Denicola
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                        Oops, hehe. I guess I kind of skipped that sentence! All I was reacting to was the comments about "most fourteen year olds," and wasn't reading carefully enough to get your entire point. Sorry :-O.

                        -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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                        • D David Wulff

                          ...how political the message voting system has become of late. It is not at all uncommon now to see a two person conversation about pretty much any controversial topic being voted 1-5-1-5-1-5-1-5... Some people have started using the voting to simply downgrade those who have differing views, rather than rating for the quality of the content. Even jokes made in good humour about characters like Bush or current events like Iraq (and I saw a couple when the SuperBowl was being discussed a few weeks ago too) are being voted in this way. It's like a character slurring match at a political debate. "I like you better than you so nuuuuur (sticks tongue out)". Now I know CodeProject has some fourteen years old members who could be excused for behaving so childishly, but there aren’t that many of them and most of them are more interested in learning programming, interacting with other cultures and watching the giant social ant farm that is the Lounge and SoapBox. I could be fooled into thinking they were voting like this were it not for the fact most fourteen year olds are more interested in that Pam and Tommy video than world leaders and events. When I visit the handful of forums here I do pretty much every afternoon I don’t have the time, the means, nor the sheer will power to read through every message, so when it started out the voting ideas was great – I could just skim read the first couple of messages in a topic and then jump to all the good ones. Admittedly I would even read all the poor ones too if the topic interested me. Now it is very hard to choose when some topics have eighty percent of their messages coloured like a sunburnt zebra. Maybe I am just being a contemptuous young so and so (and I don't doubt that for a minute ;)), but I'm turning all my filters up to "very high" and getting shot of the whole idea; it's worthless when you don’t know which votes to trust. Q: What's grey and blue and read all over? A: A CodeProject discussion on politics.

                          David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                          Lost User
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                          I notice noone has voted on this message yet. Tempting, isn't it ? :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D

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