Being pro-peace...

Michael A Barnhart

It was poorly punctuated so: To rephrase it. The preceding sentence is one that I do not believe to be factual or correct and do not think you believe it to be factual or correct. I am just using it as an example as to why I do not believe that Anti-War automatically equals Pro-Peace. "I will find a new sig someday."

KaRl

_Ah _ok, sorry, I have totally missed your point.

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Michael A Barnhart

KaЯl wrote: Why would you the US people say if inspectors wanted to survey the WMD production in US, and ask for flights of spy splanes over the US territory ? Following WW2 the US did propose open usage of spy planes by at least major nations. We were turned down. KaЯl wrote: Do you want that once again western nations make another government in a foreign country? Well I am clearly not phrasing myself well today. I thought that was what I was saying we should not do. I was just suggesting letting other Arab nations guide a new framework for the Iraq population. "I will find a new sig someday."

Chris Losinger

For agruments sake. *sentence fragment *missing apostrophe i'm not sure what to make of it. So you want no war and support Saddam giving chemical weapons to terrorist so they can be used against cities in the west. By your definition you a pro-peace. i think everyone here knows that KaRl is not pro-Saddam. and everyone knows that Saddam isn't giving weapons to (anti-US) terrorists. if giving money to any terrorist group is an invadable offense, we've got a long list of countries that need immediate invading. I do not think either of us believe that just an example that they are not equal labels. i have no idea how to parse that sentence. so, out of four (possible) sentences, only two make sense. if the other two are somehow relevant to the context of your post, then i'm sorry i'm unable to decipher them, as i'd love to know what you're talking about. perhaps we're in violent agreement - i can't tell. -c

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Michael A Barnhart

Let me say thanks for taking the time to reread it. I really appreciate the effort you do make in understanding others. We may not agree, but if we do not even understand what each other means it is hopeless to find what we do agree on. Or find a path to a resolution of our differences. Just think of the problems those in the UN must face on a daily basis. "I will find a new sig someday."

Megan Forbes

Chris Losinger wrote: all of the pro-war-on-Iraq people must therefore be pro-Iran! It really gets ridiculous doesn't it. I guess extremists are people who draw the line much further than the rest of us do :(

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KaRl

Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Well I am clearly not phrasing myself well today My level of concentration is also very low this saturday :-O

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Tim Smith

Did you know Iran is siding with Iraq on this one? The thought of the US on Iran's border scares them worse than Iraq. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

Chris Losinger

i hadn't heard this. i heard Iran wouldn't let the US use it's territory for bases or fly-overs, but that's not unusual. -c

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Tim Smith

I don't remember the quote. But it was strange statement where they said something without really saying it. Was very odd. I wish I could find it now. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

Chris Losinger

here's some nice Iran news: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030215-677323.htm[^] -c

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Gary Kirkham

The UN stated that Iraq had WMD back in 1998, when the weapons inspectors where thrown out of the country. Do you really believe that Iraq destroyed them? They had no reason to do that. No pressure was being applied. The thing that really blows, is that this should have been dealt with back in 1998. The Anti-War crowd is making a big deal about how great France and Germany are for their Anti-War position. I believe that France and Germany's biggest fear is that the world will find out how complicit they are in Iraq acquiring the capability to kill large numbers of people. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

Chris Austin

I don't know Michel, I have had many heated discussions with neighbors and co-workers here about peace vs. war and yet have not been called pro-Saddam. I'd say that a vast majority of folks are smart enough understand the difference. I think this is more likely a case of the "squeaky wheel" getting the attention. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

KaRl

My pleasure :) I've been raised in the cult of reason and think it's always possible to reach an agrement between people of good will

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Lost User

Its interesting the establishment that is most strongly agains Saddam is the establishment that strengthened and supported him in using chemical weapons against civilians in Iran....... So even if Saddam goes the same short sighted attitudes will put someone similar in power there or somewhere else. Depressing. The tigress is here :-D

Maximilien

But the dentist as a responsible specialist should have warned you that prevention is better and more cost effective than letting a bad tooth go worse and pull it out! Imagine having brushed and flossed all those years instead of eating candies, there wouldn't be any use for a dentist. Max.

brianwelsch

It's sort of useless to predict a nation's actions today based on things that happened decades ago. First, the face of the government is entirely different. Second, the changes globally since that time make for a very different playing field. Who knows, maybe the UN will play a role where it helps people become self sufficient rather than simply hand out food and medicine. (this last is based on perception, i don't know everything the UN really does) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security