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  • M Marc Clifton

    I was interested in looking at that new language for iOS, "Swift", and encountered this on the "free to everyone" link: Requirements: To view this book, you must have an iOS device with iBooks 1.5 or later and iOS 4.3.3 or later, or a Mac with iBooks 1.0 or later and OS X 10.9 or later. Gawd. Apple has such an ego. It's hard to believe that that ethos has lasted, as it existed when the Apple II was around, some 35 years ago. And is the reason I won't touch anything Apple. Marc

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    But but but they are so pretty and and and Apple have their reasons you hater because Apple are good and pure and have our interests at heart, without these policies their devices wouldn't just work. And and did I mention they so pur-ritty. </HamFistedSarcasm>

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    I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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    • M Marc Clifton

      I was interested in looking at that new language for iOS, "Swift", and encountered this on the "free to everyone" link: Requirements: To view this book, you must have an iOS device with iBooks 1.5 or later and iOS 4.3.3 or later, or a Mac with iBooks 1.0 or later and OS X 10.9 or later. Gawd. Apple has such an ego. It's hard to believe that that ethos has lasted, as it existed when the Apple II was around, some 35 years ago. And is the reason I won't touch anything Apple. Marc

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      At least they keep it consistent[^].

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I was interested in looking at that new language for iOS, "Swift", and encountered this on the "free to everyone" link: Requirements: To view this book, you must have an iOS device with iBooks 1.5 or later and iOS 4.3.3 or later, or a Mac with iBooks 1.0 or later and OS X 10.9 or later. Gawd. Apple has such an ego. It's hard to believe that that ethos has lasted, as it existed when the Apple II was around, some 35 years ago. And is the reason I won't touch anything Apple. Marc

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        Just look at it online[^]

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          I started my career doing assembler on Apple II using ProDOS and have never owned or programmed one since. I went with windows because at the time it was more open, supported and a large community.

          If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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          Mike Hankey wrote:

          I started my career doing assembler on Apple II using ProDOS

          Interesting. I did the same, except on a Commodore PET. Ah, the 6502! My first Windows program was a plunge into the Borland C++ compiler and WinG on Windows 3.1 for a side job I decided to use as a learning experience into Windows programming. It displayed real-time election results that was fed to the convention floor in LA for local elections. Quite fun! Marc

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          • K Keith Barrow

            But but but they are so pretty and and and Apple have their reasons you hater because Apple are good and pure and have our interests at heart, without these policies their devices wouldn't just work. And and did I mention they so pur-ritty. </HamFistedSarcasm>

            PB 369,783 wrote:

            I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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            Marc Clifton
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            Keith Barrow wrote:

            And and did I mention they so pur-ritty.

            I definitely acknowledge that Apple comes up with the slickest physical designs and smoothest apps that I've seen. Marc

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              Just look at it online[^]

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              Marc Clifton
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              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              Just look at it online[^]

              Yup, someone else posted that link too. It looks like an interesting language, sort of hybrid of imperative of functional programming. I imagine, if I were an iOS developer, I would cheer too! Marc

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Mike Hankey wrote:

                I started my career doing assembler on Apple II using ProDOS

                Interesting. I did the same, except on a Commodore PET. Ah, the 6502! My first Windows program was a plunge into the Borland C++ compiler and WinG on Windows 3.1 for a side job I decided to use as a learning experience into Windows programming. It displayed real-time election results that was fed to the convention floor in LA for local elections. Quite fun! Marc

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                I had a Commodore64 while in college and had a blast with it. Did some 6502 assembly at that time but fun stuff.

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Borland C++ compiler

                Borland was the real deal back then, there tools were light years ahead of uSoft. Christopher Duncan and I have had several discussion on this in the past.

                If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                  I had a Commodore64 while in college and had a blast with it. Did some 6502 assembly at that time but fun stuff.

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Borland C++ compiler

                  Borland was the real deal back then, there tools were light years ahead of uSoft. Christopher Duncan and I have had several discussion on this in the past.

                  If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  I had a Commodore64 while in college and had a blast with it. Did some 6502 assembly at that time but fun stuff.

                  I've always wanted to port this[^] to Windows. It was a great way to teach kids basic programming principles without touching a keyboard.

                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  Borland was the real deal back then, there tools were light years ahead of uSoft.

                  Indeed. I didn't move to VS (was it called that back then?) until MFC went through a couple incarnations. Marc

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    I had a Commodore64 while in college and had a blast with it. Did some 6502 assembly at that time but fun stuff.

                    I've always wanted to port this[^] to Windows. It was a great way to teach kids basic programming principles without touching a keyboard.

                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    Borland was the real deal back then, there tools were light years ahead of uSoft.

                    Indeed. I didn't move to VS (was it called that back then?) until MFC went through a couple incarnations. Marc

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                    Mike Hankey
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                    Cool looking app, could see where kids could learn and have fun. I wrote a sprite editor for the Commodore, if I remember right in assembler and let the kids go creating sprites then animating them. I've been tasked to create an electronics learning system for my grand children, been mulling it over in my head but haven't finalized anything yet. Right now they have; batteries, the old blade switches, DC lamps, etc. and are really interested and want to learn.

                    If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Keith Barrow wrote:

                      And and did I mention they so pur-ritty.

                      I definitely acknowledge that Apple comes up with the slickest physical designs and smoothest apps that I've seen. Marc

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                      Marc Clifton wrote: the slickest physical designs Remember when the MAC came out? There was no way to write programs for it (no assembler or compiler). You had to get an Apple LISA. That was the beauty that had a mother board installed upside down, and the memory was IC chips PLUGGED IN to sockets on the mother board, IC chips that managed to work themselves out over time? "slickest physical designs"!!! Dave.

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