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    Asgard25
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    My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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      My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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      If I am a dev I can open a support ticket on Monday, even though it was submitted on Friday of the previous week. That is a ticket FOR Friday that I opened ON Monday. Perhaps it's that type of subtle difference ?

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        My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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        CBadger
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        Asgard25 wrote:

        What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

        Like the difference between are you FOR your girlfriend or are you ON on your girlfriend :rolleyes:

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          If I am a dev I can open a support ticket on Monday, even though it was submitted on Friday of the previous week. That is a ticket FOR Friday that I opened ON Monday. Perhaps it's that type of subtle difference ?

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          Okay that makes sense, but our system only save the date on which it was opened(sysdate).

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            My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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            Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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            If you use FOR that day, you will being that only that day, if you're saying ON that day you're saying it will available on that day and maybe sometime later you can get it again.

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              Asgard25 wrote:

              What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

              Like the difference between are you FOR your girlfriend or are you ON on your girlfriend :rolleyes:

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              Asgard25
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              In that case there is never any confusion, it's always ON But it's more like: the kid is on the table, do something the TV is on, sshhhhhh why is the PC always on ... :laugh:

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                My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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                I would understand the two different meanings to be; 1) The logs which were created/opened on that date. i.e. they were raised on that day. 2) The other would be logs that were open or opened on that day and still not closed. i.e. if logs raised on monday were still not closed and it is now tuesday, include those. If your report records both an open date and a close date, you could determine which ones were open for that given date.

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                  If you use FOR that day, you will being that only that day, if you're saying ON that day you're saying it will available on that day and maybe sometime later you can get it again.

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                  That actually taught me a little bit better grammar, thanx:thumbsup: But I still don't see how there could be any difference between the two in this case of the open log dates

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                    My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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                    Slacker007
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                    two separate meanings. opened on is literal and opened for could be implied or past or future reference. I opened the report for the day 8/1/2014 on this current day of 8/15/2014

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                      I would understand the two different meanings to be; 1) The logs which were created/opened on that date. i.e. they were raised on that day. 2) The other would be logs that were open or opened on that day and still not closed. i.e. if logs raised on monday were still not closed and it is now tuesday, include those. If your report records both an open date and a close date, you could determine which ones were open for that given date.

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                      I agree with Dave here; opened ON a given day were items created on that given day (e.g. How many reports were created and marked Open ON Tuesday). Opened FOR a given day could be a day in the future or the past (e.g. How may reports were created FOR Tuesday). The again, the original message could contain a typo, or an unclear meaning. Good luck!

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                        My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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                        Asgard25 wrote:

                        What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

                        Why aren't you just asking him what he meant?

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                          My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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                          Worried Brown Eyes
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                          Isn't the real differential 'open on' or 'opened on'? Open is a state and can apply for an extended time, opened is an action that happens pretty instantaneously (and probably moves it into an open state). Regards, Stewart

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                            Asgard25 wrote:

                            What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

                            Why aren't you just asking him what he meant?

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            He doesn't want to open a can of worms for himself.

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                              My boss just emailed me about a report I wrote a few weeks ago that has a problem. It's a report on open logs in our Support system. His words exactly, "It must be number of logs opened on that day, currently selections is of logs OPENED for that day" What would the difference between ON and FOR be ?

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              This is due to a problem being reported after the fact -- a problem may occur on Monday night, but be reported on Tuesday morning. Such a report is reported FOR Monday ON Tuesday. Your boss could ask two slightly different questions: How many problems occured over the weekend? How many problem reports did we receive on Monday morning? And the related question that some have alluded to: How many problem reports were in an Open state on Monday at noon? It is to be hoped that your bug tracking software stores both values so you can create reports based on either.

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                                Okay that makes sense, but our system only save the date on which it was opened(sysdate).

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                                Asgard25 wrote:

                                Okay that makes sense, but our system only save the date on for which it was opened(sysdate).

                                ;)

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                                  He doesn't want to open a can of worms for himself.

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                                  Employers aren't evil.

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                                    Employers aren't evil.

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                                    Mostly no, they're not. Was going to emphasize the usage of for, as a pun, but didn't.

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