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  • P Paul Watson

    Alvaro Mendez wrote: One can only dream of how great it would be if the whole world was one giant free and democratic nation, although not necessarily like the US or run by a guy like Dubya. Not everyone wants democracy. This is a fatal mistake that us westerners often make. We think our way is the best and that it is inconcievable that others would object to our way of life. Of course Afghanis want to be liberated! Look how much better off they are now. Go liberation! And also even if everyone did want democracy forming a rule of law that would cater for every single culture on Earth is near impossible. Hindus have very different requirements to say Mormoms.

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

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    Paul Watson wrote: Not everyone wants democracy. True, those that don't should be locked up, pretty much like they are now. :-) Paul Watson wrote: And also even if everyone did want democracy forming a rule of law that would cater for every single culture on Earth is near impossible. Hindus have very different requirements to say Mormoms. That may be true, but I believe people from all those cultures are living quite happily in the US and other free countries around the world. Wait, there is one thing they don't like: having to learn a foreign language. But even that goes to show the sacrifices many people are willing to make to live in a free society. I haven't heard of many people seeking a better life in North Korea. Regards, Alvaro

    All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

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    • P Paul Watson

      302 elite troops dead[^] in crash. Now I know this topic has been beaten to death but: I only happened to hear about this tragedy by visiting Google news. It is like a sub-sub-sub-sub link on CNN.com. BBC, second item so go BBC. But come on peeps. Just for one second think how farked into a frenzied cocked hat the media would be if that Iranian plane was American and had US troops in it. I would have woken up with "Air Disaster" taped to my forehead and the CNN anchor in my bedroom. In general I would say things are disproportinatley FUBAR in our world.

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

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      Seriously I think any news agency must think about how much they can milk a story for. American advertisers generally target americans with money. So most of the bandwidth in the world goes to what will be interesting to that group. Imagine a story "Identical Twin child stuck down a hole". The shots of the above ground twin would be worth a fortune, and quite inexpensive to procure compared to covering an Iranian air disaster. It might seem sad it might seem callous but that's life. Sept 11 had spectacular coverage because of its location and simbolism. But who cared when Tikiopia dissapeared ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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      I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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      • A Alvaro Mendez

        Paul Watson wrote: Not everyone wants democracy. True, those that don't should be locked up, pretty much like they are now. :-) Paul Watson wrote: And also even if everyone did want democracy forming a rule of law that would cater for every single culture on Earth is near impossible. Hindus have very different requirements to say Mormoms. That may be true, but I believe people from all those cultures are living quite happily in the US and other free countries around the world. Wait, there is one thing they don't like: having to learn a foreign language. But even that goes to show the sacrifices many people are willing to make to live in a free society. I haven't heard of many people seeking a better life in North Korea. Regards, Alvaro

        All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

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        Alvaro Mendez wrote: True, those that don't should be locked up, pretty much like they are now. No wonder non-westerners hate us. When we have attitudes like that. Alvaro Mendez wrote: That may be true, but I believe people from all those cultures are living quite happily in the US and other free countries around the world Not entirely true. Many "get by" in American society because their countries are worse off. Their ideal is not the American way. You were talking ideals with your "one world government" post.

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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          Seriously I think any news agency must think about how much they can milk a story for. American advertisers generally target americans with money. So most of the bandwidth in the world goes to what will be interesting to that group. Imagine a story "Identical Twin child stuck down a hole". The shots of the above ground twin would be worth a fortune, and quite inexpensive to procure compared to covering an Iranian air disaster. It might seem sad it might seem callous but that's life. Sept 11 had spectacular coverage because of its location and simbolism. But who cared when Tikiopia dissapeared ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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          I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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          Colin Davies wrote: But who cared when Tikiopia dissapeared ? We did! :-D Glad to hear they were not wiped out as us "oh no high winds!" fearing westerners thought. Colin Davies wrote: It might seem sad it might seem callous but that's life. Nooo, not my point. I don't think it is callous. It isn't. I should have put in my original post that it is the rest of the worlds fault for this FUBAR media situation, not Americas. We rely on them too much. We should gather our own news. "Local is lekker" is a saying we have. Local is "nice".

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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          • P Paul Watson

            Colin Davies wrote: But who cared when Tikiopia dissapeared ? We did! :-D Glad to hear they were not wiped out as us "oh no high winds!" fearing westerners thought. Colin Davies wrote: It might seem sad it might seem callous but that's life. Nooo, not my point. I don't think it is callous. It isn't. I should have put in my original post that it is the rest of the worlds fault for this FUBAR media situation, not Americas. We rely on them too much. We should gather our own news. "Local is lekker" is a saying we have. Local is "nice".

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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            The news here is crud also Paul, but we don't blame South Africa for that. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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              The news here is crud also Paul, but we don't blame South Africa for that. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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              I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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              Colin Davies wrote: The news here is crud also Paul, but we don't blame South Africa for that. I am not blaming New Zealand for the crud news here in SA either. I blame SA news channels for being dependant on CNN, AP and the American driven Reuters. :) p.s. Saw that post about Iraq and Al-Qaeda on the Soapbox. You are such a trouble maker :-D

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                Colin Davies wrote: The news here is crud also Paul, but we don't blame South Africa for that. I am not blaming New Zealand for the crud news here in SA either. I blame SA news channels for being dependant on CNN, AP and the American driven Reuters. :) p.s. Saw that post about Iraq and Al-Qaeda on the Soapbox. You are such a trouble maker :-D

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                Paul Watson wrote: I am not blaming New Zealand for the crud news here in SA either. Yes, isolate your blame to the Black caps :-) :-) I think its healthy to debate and discuss issues even if playing the part of the devil's advocate is necessary. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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                • B brianwelsch

                  Megan Forbes wrote: like watching The Simpsons Actually, last night I was watching American Idol*. :-O [edit]*A take off of Pop Idol[/edit] BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                  brianwelsch wrote: Actually, last night I was watching American Idol*. Well, there's currently the first season of pop idol running here on tv. There're 3 people left and only 2 of them are capable of singing;) So it's quite interesting to see who's gonna win...

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                  • M Megan Forbes

                    Schlaubi wrote: "something more important like watching The Simpsons"?? Is there anything more important out in the world? It seems unlikely, although Malcolm in the Middle is an equal contender in my view :cool:

                    But I am fantastic in bed! And there are gorgeous women in all the houses I pass. And it would be wrong to leave them unsatisfied! So spam is the only way... - Paul Watson

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                    Megan Forbes wrote: Malcolm in the Middle OK, it's not really my taste, but I've still only seen the German translation, and these are mostly worse than the original ones :(

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                    • B brianwelsch

                      just found www.worldnews.com[^], which looks to take articles from different sources throughout the world. At least have some balance that way. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                      Thx ... I'll have a look :)

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