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    Ron Nicholson
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    That is the question. I am looking at using Embarcadero (either C++ Builder or Delphi) to write some windows/win8/android/iphone apps. I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range. Besides, I don't really care to make monthly payments to them. I currently don't have a Mac so I realize that I can't actually write an iphone app but I do want the ability to when I can. I am just looking for folks who have used Embarcadero to create the apps or experienced it in some way. I used C++ Builder years ago and really liked it, I also used Delphi about 10 years ago. So this should be familiar to me. Any suggestions?

    Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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      That is the question. I am looking at using Embarcadero (either C++ Builder or Delphi) to write some windows/win8/android/iphone apps. I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range. Besides, I don't really care to make monthly payments to them. I currently don't have a Mac so I realize that I can't actually write an iphone app but I do want the ability to when I can. I am just looking for folks who have used Embarcadero to create the apps or experienced it in some way. I used C++ Builder years ago and really liked it, I also used Delphi about 10 years ago. So this should be familiar to me. Any suggestions?

      Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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      Ron Nicholson wrote:

      I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range.

      Methinks $300 for the Indie license is pretty decent - that's less than $1/day for a year of upgrades.  The license is perpetual, so you if you're happy with the latest upgrade you can continue to use it to build apps without forking out more $. /ravi

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        Ron Nicholson wrote:

        I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range.

        Methinks $300 for the Indie license is pretty decent - that's less than $1/day for a year of upgrades.  The license is perpetual, so you if you're happy with the latest upgrade you can continue to use it to build apps without forking out more $. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        Especially since that other one charges like $3.7k, I'd rather pay $300.

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          That is the question. I am looking at using Embarcadero (either C++ Builder or Delphi) to write some windows/win8/android/iphone apps. I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range. Besides, I don't really care to make monthly payments to them. I currently don't have a Mac so I realize that I can't actually write an iphone app but I do want the ability to when I can. I am just looking for folks who have used Embarcadero to create the apps or experienced it in some way. I used C++ Builder years ago and really liked it, I also used Delphi about 10 years ago. So this should be familiar to me. Any suggestions?

          Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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          So, why not use something like Qt?

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            Ron Nicholson wrote:

            I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range.

            Methinks $300 for the Indie license is pretty decent - that's less than $1/day for a year of upgrades.  The license is perpetual, so you if you're happy with the latest upgrade you can continue to use it to build apps without forking out more $. /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            Good suggestion. I was looking at the starter edition (159.00). There are some limits but I am fine with those for the time being. The next step up for me was professional, which is 512.00. I figured that would last for a few years. That is 670 for a few years. I could get 2 years of Xamarin for that, was also thinking that I lost Xamarin when I quit the subscription. Time to revisit it. Just looked again at Xamarin, if the monthly indie subscription expires so does the license to use Xamarin. It looks like the monthy subscription is a trial until 9-1-2014. If they go back to a yearly subscription I think it is usable after the subscription expires. I might send them a question. Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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              So, why not use something like Qt?

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              Haven't looked at QT, I'll check it out. Thanks

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                Good suggestion. I was looking at the starter edition (159.00). There are some limits but I am fine with those for the time being. The next step up for me was professional, which is 512.00. I figured that would last for a few years. That is 670 for a few years. I could get 2 years of Xamarin for that, was also thinking that I lost Xamarin when I quit the subscription. Time to revisit it. Just looked again at Xamarin, if the monthly indie subscription expires so does the license to use Xamarin. It looks like the monthy subscription is a trial until 9-1-2014. If they go back to a yearly subscription I think it is usable after the subscription expires. I might send them a question. Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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                The yearly Indie subscription is still around.  The monthly subscriptions may eventually be phased out.  This info is in their FAQ, or you can call them.  I've had a good experience with Xamarin, both codewise and in dealing with their support devs and tech evangelists. :thumbsup: /ravi

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                  That is the question. I am looking at using Embarcadero (either C++ Builder or Delphi) to write some windows/win8/android/iphone apps. I briefly looked at Xamarin but it is out of my price range. Besides, I don't really care to make monthly payments to them. I currently don't have a Mac so I realize that I can't actually write an iphone app but I do want the ability to when I can. I am just looking for folks who have used Embarcadero to create the apps or experienced it in some way. I used C++ Builder years ago and really liked it, I also used Delphi about 10 years ago. So this should be familiar to me. Any suggestions?

                  Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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                  The last good/useful version of Delphi was 7. Since then, Borland/Inprise and now Embarcadero has just made it worser and worserer.

                  We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                    The last good/useful version of Delphi was 7. Since then, Borland/Inprise and now Embarcadero has just made it worser and worserer.

                    We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                    I knew it went down hill but I was hoping it had come back.

                    Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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                      I knew it went down hill but I was hoping it had come back.

                      Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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                      And they did. I jump straightly from BCB 6 to XE3. It's much better now (except for the help system, I'm still using BCB6 help :p ).

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