Going back home after the Barcelona celebration
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
No, our taxes go to Madrid, they divide them and at the end we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid... In some parts of Spain there are policies that could have been nice years ago but that nowadays they are terrible: On a travel to Paris, I met a couple from Seville, he worked on the construction a normal set of hours. She had an agreement with three other girls and with her boss: she worked only 1/4 of the year... the other 3/4 were for her 3 colleagues. In south of Spain if they work 1/4 of the year the other 3/4 parts are covered by an automatic subside... That was done to allow the farmers to live due to the kind of cereals they planted, but this is a really extended way to trick the system. The problem is big once this is done extensively in the south... in Extremadura there's a lot of people that earn money by going to adult school to learn a profession... I dated an Extremadura girl years ago who lived near Girona (Catalonia), once we met a neighbor of her parent's house in Extremadura... she was learning how to become a plasterer... before she was learning to be a carpenter... and so on... that is another way to waste public money by not working and waiting for everything to come "for free". Nobody is using them but if you visit Extremadura you will see the best roads in Spain... and all of them for free... ours cost us money... X| Sorry, too much politics here...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
Great music, great whiskey, great films, great cars (Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Lotus,...), you don't have to hide each time Ana Botella or any other important political or not person tries to speak in English to drink a "Café con leche in the plaza mayor"... We are the best in terms of unemployment... X| X| X| Just compare: http://country-facts.findthebest.com/compare/28-131/United-Kingdom-vs-Spain[^]... I've been only once in the UK... the things that surprised me a lot were: - Carpet everywere... even under water piles! - Two taps on water pil
Joan Murt wrote:
we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust! THe UK is distinctive, thats for sure. THe paint I think is just from having it redone every year, for centuries. :) Carpets, yes, everywhere. Byt we live in bare footed warm confort all year, none of that hard tiles stuff! The music is good, actually, its incredibly good, so far better than anything else in the world its almost embarassingly good. And I have no idea why the UK has been so good at music for so long. Its just somethign we seem to do very well. Breakfast though, come on, thats a REAL breakfast! IF you ever go skiing, or mountaineering, eat a breakfast lilke that, it will keep you going all day. :) Our hotels can be crappy though, there is a lot of old stuff in the UK, old and worn out, but I suppose it is picturesque too. (By the way it is 'pipes' not 'piles' Piles is sonethig you get on your arse from sitting on cold stone. :) ) I love the costa brava though, I live just north of MArseille, so its not far and we often go there. I love the food, and the easy going non pretentious Cataln way of doing things. Zarzuela! My favourite dish! :) I dont know why Catalunia isnt way more built up. You have great weather, great coastline, two superb airports, and great skiing just inland. It has everything the French Riviera has. If I wanted to set up a business I would put it in Catalunia. Its got everything,
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
No, our taxes go to Madrid, they divide them and at the end we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid... In some parts of Spain there are policies that could have been nice years ago but that nowadays they are terrible: On a travel to Paris, I met a couple from Seville, he worked on the construction a normal set of hours. She had an agreement with three other girls and with her boss: she worked only 1/4 of the year... the other 3/4 were for her 3 colleagues. In south of Spain if they work 1/4 of the year the other 3/4 parts are covered by an automatic subside... That was done to allow the farmers to live due to the kind of cereals they planted, but this is a really extended way to trick the system. The problem is big once this is done extensively in the south... in Extremadura there's a lot of people that earn money by going to adult school to learn a profession... I dated an Extremadura girl years ago who lived near Girona (Catalonia), once we met a neighbor of her parent's house in Extremadura... she was learning how to become a plasterer... before she was learning to be a carpenter... and so on... that is another way to waste public money by not working and waiting for everything to come "for free". Nobody is using them but if you visit Extremadura you will see the best roads in Spain... and all of them for free... ours cost us money... X| Sorry, too much politics here...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
Great music, great whiskey, great films, great cars (Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Lotus,...), you don't have to hide each time Ana Botella or any other important political or not person tries to speak in English to drink a "Café con leche in the plaza mayor"... We are the best in terms of unemployment... X| X| X| Just compare: http://country-facts.findthebest.com/compare/28-131/United-Kingdom-vs-Spain[^]... I've been only once in the UK... the things that surprised me a lot were: - Carpet everywere... even under water piles! - Two taps on water pil
Damn, the Spanish birth rate is very low! How will you maintain the populaiton, it must be shrinking rapidly!
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Damn, the Spanish birth rate is very low! How will you maintain the populaiton, it must be shrinking rapidly!
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Don't ask that please... don't ask that... imagine my wife reads that! :laugh: Given the fact we have almost a 25% of unemployment is not strange seeing that nobody wants to have children...
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Joan Murt wrote:
we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust! THe UK is distinctive, thats for sure. THe paint I think is just from having it redone every year, for centuries. :) Carpets, yes, everywhere. Byt we live in bare footed warm confort all year, none of that hard tiles stuff! The music is good, actually, its incredibly good, so far better than anything else in the world its almost embarassingly good. And I have no idea why the UK has been so good at music for so long. Its just somethign we seem to do very well. Breakfast though, come on, thats a REAL breakfast! IF you ever go skiing, or mountaineering, eat a breakfast lilke that, it will keep you going all day. :) Our hotels can be crappy though, there is a lot of old stuff in the UK, old and worn out, but I suppose it is picturesque too. (By the way it is 'pipes' not 'piles' Piles is sonethig you get on your arse from sitting on cold stone. :) ) I love the costa brava though, I live just north of MArseille, so its not far and we often go there. I love the food, and the easy going non pretentious Cataln way of doing things. Zarzuela! My favourite dish! :) I dont know why Catalunia isnt way more built up. You have great weather, great coastline, two superb airports, and great skiing just inland. It has everything the French Riviera has. If I wanted to set up a business I would put it in Catalunia. Its got everything,
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust!
That's one of the amounts of reasons that have made 1.8 million people to go out on the streets for three consecutive years, two years ago a big demonstration was done, one year ago we made a chain of people across all the seaside of Catalonia, and this year we've made this big flag made of people... I had not seen it from the air since yesterday evening, this is why I've added pictures and a small video today to the original post, but it was amazing. I think you are not making justice to your music with that statements... it has no sense naming groups... hats off and nothing else. I would say that your breakfast can hold a man for one entire week... I'm a Sissie it's clear... :laugh: That hotel was so so at it's best... but not all of them will be that way for sure. I entered one that it was completely bended... old not the next thing, but it was curious to see... even the stairs were so bended it was difficult to go up and down... Costa brava is a really nice place if you avoid Lloret de Mar where all the tourists that love drinking go. Oil and all related to the Mediterranean way of making food helps and trust me I would live of "pa amb tomàquet" (bread with tomato), but Zarzuela is not bad :laugh: Catalans work a lot but not a lot of money stays here then I suppose people who start a new business in Spain see that and decide to go to any other place... :sigh:
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust!
That's one of the amounts of reasons that have made 1.8 million people to go out on the streets for three consecutive years, two years ago a big demonstration was done, one year ago we made a chain of people across all the seaside of Catalonia, and this year we've made this big flag made of people... I had not seen it from the air since yesterday evening, this is why I've added pictures and a small video today to the original post, but it was amazing. I think you are not making justice to your music with that statements... it has no sense naming groups... hats off and nothing else. I would say that your breakfast can hold a man for one entire week... I'm a Sissie it's clear... :laugh: That hotel was so so at it's best... but not all of them will be that way for sure. I entered one that it was completely bended... old not the next thing, but it was curious to see... even the stairs were so bended it was difficult to go up and down... Costa brava is a really nice place if you avoid Lloret de Mar where all the tourists that love drinking go. Oil and all related to the Mediterranean way of making food helps and trust me I would live of "pa amb tomàquet" (bread with tomato), but Zarzuela is not bad :laugh: Catalans work a lot but not a lot of money stays here then I suppose people who start a new business in Spain see that and decide to go to any other place... :sigh:
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If the benefits and taxes were reduced and labour laws changed so companies can hire and fire people, like in the US and UK, you get far more dynamic and productive economies. Look at the UK today, it has the best ecconomy in the world. Two years ago it was in the shit. Thats what a dynamic ecconomy can do, it can respond to changes in the market and adapt. It could be incredible, Catalunia, if it could do the same as the UK,
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If the benefits and taxes were reduced and labour laws changed so companies can hire and fire people, like in the US and UK, you get far more dynamic and productive economies. Look at the UK today, it has the best ecconomy in the world. Two years ago it was in the shit. Thats what a dynamic ecconomy can do, it can respond to changes in the market and adapt. It could be incredible, Catalunia, if it could do the same as the UK,
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Once I spoke with one USA guy that was astonished when he knew about our system were one bad-or-not worker gets fired and get a lot of money as compensation... his first question was... but as a company owner... do you get "compensated" each time you hire somebody? Only if we were not throwing this big amount of money each day towards Spain it would be much much better... imagine if what you are saying here would be also introduced... then probably we would start having the best music in the world as we could buy your musicians! :rolleyes:
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Once I spoke with one USA guy that was astonished when he knew about our system were one bad-or-not worker gets fired and get a lot of money as compensation... his first question was... but as a company owner... do you get "compensated" each time you hire somebody? Only if we were not throwing this big amount of money each day towards Spain it would be much much better... imagine if what you are saying here would be also introduced... then probably we would start having the best music in the world as we could buy your musicians! :rolleyes:
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The US of course has the same system, and law, as the UK, since it is a UK off shoot. This difference, between the UK and the way France, Belgium, Spain etc run, is what really stands between the UK and continental Europe and why the UK can never use the euro. The ecconomies are just so different. Job security in the UK comes from it being easy to get another job, provided your skills are marketable, and you usually get a good pay rise too. Of course if your skils arent wanted, then its tough titties! :)
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