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    Marc Clifton
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    Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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      Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      See also Palmdale, California -- as I recall there are streets like P 1/8. I really dislike street naming systems that are supposed to be logical, consistent, and predictable because they never are.

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        Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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        ZurdoDev
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        It is so easy to get around. You don't need directions or GPS to get anywhere. It would be great if more places did it this way. Of course the US also has places like Atlanta where they just paved the cattle trails so there is no such thing as a straight road.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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          A_WoodApple
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          I have seen this in Wisconsin... What great fun unincorporated addresses are.... formatting is an issue as you will see it written a variety of ways (EX: 2150e13400s)... worse yet, sometimes the addresses will also have an incorporated address (123 Logrun rd, this happens as towns expand into areas).

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            See also Palmdale, California -- as I recall there are streets like P 1/8. I really dislike street naming systems that are supposed to be logical, consistent, and predictable because they never are.

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            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            I really dislike street naming systems that are supposed to be logical, consistent, and predictable because they never are.

            Yeah, check out this document[^] on the complexities of addressing. Wow. Marc

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Reminds me of lat and longitude.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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                Lost User
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South?

                Totally common in rural states across the midwest.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  Yeah, most of Utah has addressing of that sort. It's confusing when the also use names for streets. Like "Freedom Blvd" and "200 West" are the same street in Provo, UT. Arizona, I recall, has a similar grid system since it was originally colonized by Mormons.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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                    Paul M Watt
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                    I'm surprised more people here aren't saying "now that makes sense", especially since logic is a skill usually recommended for programmers. Here is the secret decoder ring for those that are having trouble with this: East to West is the domain North to South is the range Most of the roads are continuous, however, some are discrete mostly due to construction.

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                      I'm surprised more people here aren't saying "now that makes sense", especially since logic is a skill usually recommended for programmers. Here is the secret decoder ring for those that are having trouble with this: East to West is the domain North to South is the range Most of the roads are continuous, however, some are discrete mostly due to construction.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Makes sense from a targetting point of view. :~

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        It is so easy to get around. You don't need directions or GPS to get anywhere. It would be great if more places did it this way. Of course the US also has places like Atlanta where they just paved the cattle trails so there is no such thing as a straight road.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        In Atlanta, you have this[^]!!!

                        I'd rather be phishing!

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                          In Atlanta, you have this[^]!!!

                          I'd rather be phishing!

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Ya, that's only a sample of the crazy.

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                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            I really dislike street naming systems that are supposed to be logical, consistent, and predictable because they never are.

                            Yeah, check out this document[^] on the complexities of addressing. Wow. Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly

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                            Jorgen Andersson
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                            On that subject, I can't remember anymore who posted it but falsehoods programmers believe about addresses/[^] is a great read.

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                              I'm surprised more people here aren't saying "now that makes sense", especially since logic is a skill usually recommended for programmers. Here is the secret decoder ring for those that are having trouble with this: East to West is the domain North to South is the range Most of the roads are continuous, however, some are discrete mostly due to construction.

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                              Another part where it can be confusing is where counties meet since many of these are county roads and road numbering can change from country to county not to mention the NSEW designation absolutely changes from county to county. You can be driving south on 5000E road and pass 12000S road - then cross a county line (with little or no indication) and suddenly you're on 4000W road and soon pass 8000N road. ;P

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                based on a grid system

                                Yep and when I visited my mother for the first time since she moved to a town that I had never been to before, I found her house very easily. It's actually a great system not like other cities I have been to where the street addresses have no rhyme or reason to them.

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                                  Yeah, most of Utah has addressing of that sort. It's confusing when the also use names for streets. Like "Freedom Blvd" and "200 West" are the same street in Provo, UT. Arizona, I recall, has a similar grid system since it was originally colonized by Mormons.

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                  Arizona, I recall, has a similar grid system

                                  The Phoenix metro area, yes, generally, but it sounds like Utah does it better.

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                                    On that subject, I can't remember anymore who posted it but falsehoods programmers believe about addresses/[^] is a great read.

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                                    Brisingr Aerowing
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                                    I think it was first posted in the Insider News.

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                                      On that subject, I can't remember anymore who posted it but falsehoods programmers believe about addresses/[^] is a great read.

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                                      Brisingr Aerowing
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                                      Here[^] is the original post. On a side note, I haven't seen Terrence Dorsey for a while. @tpdorsey, if you are here, how are you?

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Rather different semantics, I'd say.[^] Utah's street naming and numbering system is based on a grid system with the Salt Lake Temple as the center of town. This system makes for some unique addresses. Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South? Marc

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        Where else do you see an address such as 2150 East 13400 South?

                                        The great part is that if you are referring to Salt Lake Valley, I know where this is and pretty much how to get there. One confusing part for newcomers is the ordinal shorthand used by locals, where you drop the last two digits and convert to an ordinal. Thus this address above is near the corner of 21st East and 134th South. Another confusing part, even to me, is that many towns have Center and Main streets for their zero point. However, Center Street may run East/West and Main North/South or the opposite! On top of that, due to geography and highways, sometimes these are not the true center of town (in Utah County, State Street runs diagonally through many of the towns and becomes the "main" drag.) EDIT: Another point of confusion is that the greater Salt Lake metropolitan area has a street system which covers the entire valley. In the rest of Utah, the street system is town by town. In Utah County (the valley just south of Salt Lake where BYU is located) the towns have "collided" creating some confusion at the borders, especially if they are not a nice, straight line.

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