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  • J Jason Henderson

    David Wulff wrote: IMO the "some" was not necessary, that is what gives the negative impression. You want me to say I think everyone here on CP logically states their case for or against war? I won't do that because its not true.

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    David Wulff
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    *sigh* That is not what I said at all. My appology is there if you think it necessary. I have no interest in pursuing this any further.


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    • J Jason Henderson

      David Wulff wrote: talk down to us in that tone. :wtf: I was actually complementing most CPians.

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      Chris Losinger
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      FYI, your .sig is giving me Javascript errors. -c


      When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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        FYI, your .sig is giving me Javascript errors. -c


        When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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        Jason Henderson
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        When you click on a link or just everytime its displayed?

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          When you click on a link or just everytime its displayed?

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          "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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          sporadically, when it's displayed. (i think it's your's, it could be leaving someone else's, i guess) -c


          When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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            sporadically, when it's displayed. (i think it's your's, it could be leaving someone else's, i guess) -c


            When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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            Jason Henderson
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            I just checked, and I don't have any javascript in my sig, but it does use some of CP's classes like HoverLink. Those could be causing the problem I guess.

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            "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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            • J Jason Henderson

              http://www.brain-terminal.com/articles/video/peace-protest.html[^] Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me.

              Jason Henderson
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              Paul Watson
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              Jason Henderson wrote: Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me. At least all they have at their disposal are banners and placards. Not tanks, F16s, M16s, grenades, missiles, biological weapons and nuclear weapons. Or on the other hand suicide bombers, aeroplanes etc. War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. What I dislike most about the US right now is that it is not looking for other answers, not even trying. And there is no far reaching plan to make war the less likely answer in the future. It is madness.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
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              Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                Jason Henderson wrote: Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me. At least all they have at their disposal are banners and placards. Not tanks, F16s, M16s, grenades, missiles, biological weapons and nuclear weapons. Or on the other hand suicide bombers, aeroplanes etc. War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. What I dislike most about the US right now is that it is not looking for other answers, not even trying. And there is no far reaching plan to make war the less likely answer in the future. It is madness.

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                Jason Henderson
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                Paul Watson wrote: War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. I understand your dislike of war, and I don't like it either, but I can't for the life of me figure out why war is not and cannot be the answer to some. Has the human condition changed that much in 50 years? Are we somehow less barbaric? There will always be evil in the world because humanity is inherently evil or at least has a propensity for doing evil. Until we can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that evil has been vanquished completely from human society, we cannot rule out War as a possible solution to opposing the whims of evil men.

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                  Jason Henderson wrote: Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me. At least all they have at their disposal are banners and placards. Not tanks, F16s, M16s, grenades, missiles, biological weapons and nuclear weapons. Or on the other hand suicide bombers, aeroplanes etc. War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. What I dislike most about the US right now is that it is not looking for other answers, not even trying. And there is no far reaching plan to make war the less likely answer in the future. It is madness.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                  But Paul you forget those with the biggest bombs are the smartest guys! :rolleyes: As the germans say, the dumbest farmer has the biggest potato, or something. No, wait...


                  If you go to war, you will destroy a great country a stoned greek chick to the richest man of the world
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                    Jason Henderson wrote: Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me. At least all they have at their disposal are banners and placards. Not tanks, F16s, M16s, grenades, missiles, biological weapons and nuclear weapons. Or on the other hand suicide bombers, aeroplanes etc. War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. What I dislike most about the US right now is that it is not looking for other answers, not even trying. And there is no far reaching plan to make war the less likely answer in the future. It is madness.

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                    I'm wondering what are the long-term goals of this administration after they have their little war. So, I have a few questions myself. Are we still going to go after OBL? On an news site(yahoo news), one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? quorum pars magna fui

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                      I'm wondering what are the long-term goals of this administration after they have their little war. So, I have a few questions myself. Are we still going to go after OBL? On an news site(yahoo news), one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? quorum pars magna fui

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                      Chris Austin wrote: one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? Would you support that? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                        I'm wondering what are the long-term goals of this administration after they have their little war. So, I have a few questions myself. Are we still going to go after OBL? On an news site(yahoo news), one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? quorum pars magna fui

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                        Chris Austin wrote: What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? Indeed. And where is the After Plan for Iraq? Who is going to take over? The UN should forget about stopping war because it is going to happen. It should be mounting a plan to go in afterwards and help the Iraqi people. Bigger mess on Bush' hands than he presently has. Those weapons are going to become even more available to terrorists once Saddam is gone. Ugh, it is all going to come unstuck.

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                          Chris Austin wrote: one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? Would you support that? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                          Sure Stan, Looks like I read the news post wrong, it was other news about Iran, Iraq, and OBL in the same story. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=578&ncid=578&e=5&u=/nm/20030211/ts_nm/attack_cia_dc[^] But, if he is hiding in Pakistan like the official says he might be, why aren't we directing out might after him there? Why is SH more important than OBL? And, how many countries will we have to declare war on? Like I said, I'd like to see some long term plans. quorum pars magna fui

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                            Chris Austin wrote: What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? Indeed. And where is the After Plan for Iraq? Who is going to take over? The UN should forget about stopping war because it is going to happen. It should be mounting a plan to go in afterwards and help the Iraqi people. Bigger mess on Bush' hands than he presently has. Those weapons are going to become even more available to terrorists once Saddam is gone. Ugh, it is all going to come unstuck.

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                            Bluegrass
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                            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

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                            Along the same lines, I am concerned about how many invasions our leaders will begin on this hunt for all that is wrong. "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;" quorum pars magna fui

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                            • J Jason Henderson

                              http://www.brain-terminal.com/articles/video/peace-protest.html[^] Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me.

                              Jason Henderson
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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Take a camera and shoot some interviews with people from the "other side", and you'll get equally idiotic interviews. :) - "Why should we bomb Iraq?" - "Duuuh.. because Bush says so? And they have something called WMD..." If you glance around, you'll find morons in all groups in society. All over the world. :) -- Chatai. Yana ra Yakana ro futisha ta?

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                                Take a camera and shoot some interviews with people from the "other side", and you'll get equally idiotic interviews. :) - "Why should we bomb Iraq?" - "Duuuh.. because Bush says so? And they have something called WMD..." If you glance around, you'll find morons in all groups in society. All over the world. :) -- Chatai. Yana ra Yakana ro futisha ta?

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                                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If you glance around, you'll find morons in all groups in society. All over the world. This is true. But the ones on the other side at least have the sense to not go around with signs protesting that we must go to war now. Regards, Alvaro


                                All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

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                                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If you glance around, you'll find morons in all groups in society. All over the world. This is true. But the ones on the other side at least have the sense to not go around with signs protesting that we must go to war now. Regards, Alvaro


                                  All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

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                                  The only reason you don't see them demonstrating is because demonstrating is a typical leftwing activity. Besides, pro-war people don't have to demonstrate. The guy in power is on their side. :) -- Chatai. Yana ra Yakana ro futisha ta?

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                                  • J Jason Henderson

                                    I just checked, and I don't have any javascript in my sig, but it does use some of CP's classes like HoverLink. Those could be causing the problem I guess.

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    i'm getting it from everyone now. looks like CP is having some issues. :( -c


                                    When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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