How does a company appeal to a software developer?

Florian Rappl

Really ? I feel Intel is massively behind in software. I mean the whole RealSense thing is total crap (just look at the SDK, not to speak of the HW side, which has been outsourced and is also far behind the competition). The Intel XDK is very buggy and only lives from the individual components, which are not build from Intel. I won't go into more special categories such as compilers or the Xeon Phi ecosystem. For me doing software with Intel has been a disaster and I am much happier without their software products. I have a feeling that they bought you ;), but I am happy that you got some goodies from them!

Pete OHanlon

I will have to disagree on the RealSense. I have spent a lot of time working with the SDK and I find it to be very good. I wouldn't be wasting my time with a technology if I didn't think it had potential.

PIEBALDconsult

I see your mug, etc. and raise you a Bob sticker.

Florian Rappl

I am really surprised. I guess you never created something with the Kinect (either for the Xbox or for Windows). It is actually far superior.

Pete OHanlon

I have, but the but there are big issues with the Kinect. For instance, it's an external peripheral - and a hefty one at that. The RealSense camera will be internal in Ultrabooks. It's also targeting Android devices as well. On top of that, there's the ability to print to 3D devices directly - that's pretty compelling. Overall, I find the RealSense SDK to be very simple to use - I recently demonstrated to people how to identify the emotions a user was feeling in a dozen lines of code. How about handling swipe and zoom gestures? Again, a dozen lines of code. Want to add more gestures? Very simple.

BillWoodruff

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

Overall, I find the RealSense SDK to be very simple to use - I recently demonstrated to people how to identify the emotions a user was feeling in a dozen lines of code. How about handling swipe and zoom gestures? Again, a dozen lines of code. Want to add more gestures? Very simple.

Looking forward to the articles on CP that will guide us into this wonderland, Pete. Congratulations on your award ! cheers, Bill

«A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push» Wittgenstein

BillWoodruff

You have a Bob sticker ? I am green-with-orange-codpiece envy. cheers, Bill

«A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push» Wittgenstein

DaveAuld

Ooh funcy! Well Done!

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Pete OHanlon

They will be accompanying an OS framework I'm writing to allow people to simplify even from that level. Using it will enable you to break it down to this:

Application
.Uses(RealSense.Emotion)
.On(Emotion.Happiness, emotion=>HandleHappiness(emotion))
.Uses(RealSense.Gesture)
.On(Gesture.SwipeLeft, swipe=>OnGesture(swipe))
.On(Gesture.SwipeRight, swipe=>OnGesture(swipe))
.On(Gesture.ZoomIn, zoom=>OnZoom(zoom));

Pete OHanlon

I see you your Bob sticker and raise you a Bob mug and T-Shirt.

Florian Rappl

The SDK does not make much sense (pun intended) and where you find it excelling I find it limiting. We created, e.g., a 3D scanner with the RealSense SDK. It was a pure mess. The precision of the camera and the abilities of the SDK have been in the way. In the end we had to use the most primitive API possible and directly smooth over everything. Still, the result was not very pretty. With the Kinect it is easily possible as the Kinect Fusion implementation demonstrates. Going beyond simple gestures is a pain. If you just use the built-in gestures then I agree with you - its alright. But is that really what I want as a developer? I hardly think so. Otherwise the last ~15 years in software engineering are just useless. Who needs extensibility?! I still don't know what should be the use-case of a near-field camera in an Ultrabook. When I am sitting in front of the device I will definitely not use it. The Kinect is much better in almost every area. But I can see that they bought you where I had to refuse :). Glad at least one developer I know likes the SDK.

Pete OHanlon

Actually, I find the remark that they bought me highly offensive. This award from Intel was just created this year - I've been working with the RealSense SDK for the last couple of years, back from when it was the Perceptual Computing SDK. You and I have different opinions about the SDK and that's fine, but that's down to the way we like to interact - while I can do things very easily with the RealSense SDK, I also like the fact that I can go a lot deeper and achieve a much finer degree of control. I really like the fact that it's also multi-platform, and doesn't just tie me into a Microsoft world.

Abhishek Nandy 0

Thanks Pete O'Hanlon(Congratulations to you becoming Intel Software Innovator..You showed me the path) for mentioning me it's been a highly privileged part as I started in Software Development 2 years back here at CodeProject and people like u and other CP members have always encouraged me.I am moved by your work thoroughly follow you.Because of CodeProject I think I have come some far the journey started here.Microsoft Virtual Academy Fast Track Challenge Global Winner.IOT atleast started,SWIFT TopcoderR challengewinner,building custom rom for Android,modifying the ROMS adding my own,Intel RealSense,Big Data Hadoop with IBM Bluemix,ChallengePost Dual Screen Android Challenge Popular choice winner,articles at CodeProject,Complete game with Project Anarchy,staying within top 25 in Topcoder Design competition for month of may...WOW the journey was awesome and I think I am still a 0 and know nothing.Rest assured more articles on different topics my experience to come and share here....because here I started here I belong :) :laugh: :-D :-D.Thanks Pete O'Hanlon and thanks everybody in CodeProject to give me the confidence that I can.Yeah indeed I am first in India to become the Intel Software Innovator and my journey has just started... :-D :) :laugh: :laugh:

PIEBALDconsult

Yes, as an award for my second-place article last spring. :jig:

Florian Rappl

Can you elaborate a little bit more on the last point? I still think the SDK is only available on Microsoft Windows ... And you need quite some work to use it on Linux, as I already did that. To be honest it was easier to use the Kinect under Linux than the SDK. Therefore I really don't know what you mean. I never heard of the Android version, at least not for ARM (which is the architecture of 99% of all Android devices). Maybe I am wrong and maybe something changed since I stopped using the SDK.