I Love CodeProject; Hate StackOverFlow
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
Yes. (A fast response for you ;) )
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yes. (A fast response for you ;) )
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
:)
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Yes. (A fast response for you ;) )
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Still got there first! :laugh:
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Still got there first! :laugh:
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
I am happy you find Code Project more friendly than Stack Overflow. Even here, posts are sometimes marked as 'not a question' and removed. I think this is a bad habit: the OP deserves help even if the question 'is not properly phrased' :rolleyes:
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
I have found some useful information on SO, but equally I know exactly what you are talking about. I have seen many replies to questions downvoted simply because they didn't give the de facto industry expected solution. I even saw one reply not long ago where the reply was heavily downvoted (almost bordering on an attack) because the contributor gave some advice that flew in the face of popular convention. I actually found the advice to be very useful. If you buck the trend on SO then you won't get along very well, unless you are already well know and respected throughout the technical community. It can be very cliquey.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter
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I have found some useful information on SO, but equally I know exactly what you are talking about. I have seen many replies to questions downvoted simply because they didn't give the de facto industry expected solution. I even saw one reply not long ago where the reply was heavily downvoted (almost bordering on an attack) because the contributor gave some advice that flew in the face of popular convention. I actually found the advice to be very useful. If you buck the trend on SO then you won't get along very well, unless you are already well know and respected throughout the technical community. It can be very cliquey.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter
I think the OP is having trouble getting a question asked let alone answered. I was not aware they nazi'd all over questions (never having asked on SO), answers I can understand. Unless the OP is asking completely idiotic question I would think the would at least be posted. I find SO an excellent resource but not somewhere I would spend any time and not somewhere I would contribute to!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
There are several ways to get downvotes asking in SO: 1. Start a question from something like this: "Hi guys, I am new to...", "My teacher told me...", "My friend asked me...", "I need this ASAP..." and similar irrelevant crap. 2. Ask a question without a code "Hi guys, my program crashes, what can I do?" 3. Define all your problems as "not working". 4. Post 1 MB of source code with laconic description "not working" - see also p.3 5. Ask philosophical questions like "What is faster: C or C++?", "How to learn programming?" etc. 6. Ask non-programming questions like "How to install Windows and Ubuntu on the same computer?" Which way you prefer? Currently SO is most valuable WEB resource for solving a programming problems. But it is really unfriendly for a new users - unless you learn to ask (and probably to answer) according to their guidelines.
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There are several ways to get downvotes asking in SO: 1. Start a question from something like this: "Hi guys, I am new to...", "My teacher told me...", "My friend asked me...", "I need this ASAP..." and similar irrelevant crap. 2. Ask a question without a code "Hi guys, my program crashes, what can I do?" 3. Define all your problems as "not working". 4. Post 1 MB of source code with laconic description "not working" - see also p.3 5. Ask philosophical questions like "What is faster: C or C++?", "How to learn programming?" etc. 6. Ask non-programming questions like "How to install Windows and Ubuntu on the same computer?" Which way you prefer? Currently SO is most valuable WEB resource for solving a programming problems. But it is really unfriendly for a new users - unless you learn to ask (and probably to answer) according to their guidelines.
Alex Fr wrote:
Currently SO is most valuable WEB resource for solving a programming problems
On this, I'd have to disagree. Most of the time, I find that the answers to problems on SO, assume so much prior knowledge, or are so outdated as to be virtually useless. At best, an answer oftentimes represents a snapshot of the world as it was at that time.
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Alex Fr wrote:
Currently SO is most valuable WEB resource for solving a programming problems
On this, I'd have to disagree. Most of the time, I find that the answers to problems on SO, assume so much prior knowledge, or are so outdated as to be virtually useless. At best, an answer oftentimes represents a snapshot of the world as it was at that time.
Of course, this is my personal opinion. When I an looking for some programming solution making Google search, usually SO answers are on the top of the list, and they are really best. Though I am participating in SO both asking and answering a questions, this opinion is based only on my Google search experience. Since there are lot of programming forums, everyone can decide which is the best, and more friendly sites like CodeProject message boards make a good work.
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I think the OP is having trouble getting a question asked let alone answered. I was not aware they nazi'd all over questions (never having asked on SO), answers I can understand. Unless the OP is asking completely idiotic question I would think the would at least be posted. I find SO an excellent resource but not somewhere I would spend any time and not somewhere I would contribute to!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
I was not aware they nazi'd all over questions
Yes - he who must not be named's approach is much closer to the norm in SO than it is here. Whatever you see here in Q&A is magnified through a hive mind on SO. Thoughtful answers often get short shrift too. That said, where I work the prevailing attitude to CP is pretty negative. I've even been told "it's the shortest way to get the wrong answer" (which surprised me, given that I've always found the advice good) and it's too slow to get any kind of answer.
Slacker007 wrote:
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Of course, this is my personal opinion. When I an looking for some programming solution making Google search, usually SO answers are on the top of the list, and they are really best. Though I am participating in SO both asking and answering a questions, this opinion is based only on my Google search experience. Since there are lot of programming forums, everyone can decide which is the best, and more friendly sites like CodeProject message boards make a good work.
I used to answer questions on SO. I was put off by the arrogance of certain posters. It's one of the reasons I don't answer many questions in QA here either. There's a similar elitist attitude that forgets that we were all newbies at one point.
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
... Isn't registering, damnit! These boards need to be exclusive to people who know something about the technology they're using! So I'll just keep pressing the '1' key on my keyboard until it registers!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I used to answer questions on SO. I was put off by the arrogance of certain posters. It's one of the reasons I don't answer many questions in QA here either. There's a similar elitist attitude that forgets that we were all newbies at one point.
+5. Could not have put it in better words. Perfect comment.
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I used to answer questions on SO. I was put off by the arrogance of certain posters. It's one of the reasons I don't answer many questions in QA here either. There's a similar elitist attitude that forgets that we were all newbies at one point.
Agreed - I don't answer anything there either for the same reasons. And some of our QA answerers are as bad - but fortunately there are fewer here than there! :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
Quote:
CodeProject is very patient
that's why lot's of Spam(Ads) post in QA. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Born To Learn
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Quote:
CodeProject is very patient
that's why lot's of Spam(Ads) post in QA. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Born To Learn
Ohhooo... :omg:
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
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Hi friends, I have created about 7 IDs in StackOverflow. But, Whenever I ask a question. People downvote it, and StackOverFlow bans me from asking questions. They don't even bother to answer the questions. Rather, they say this problem, that problem blaah blaah blaah,,, I have created about 7 Gmail IDs and used it to sign in for StackedOverFlow. Everything banned. Now I left it, and hate it. This codeproject Account I create long before. But I really like this. Eventhough I am not getting fast response, CodeProject is very patient, It gives me confidence to ask more. Thanks so much friends :)
Yesudass
Of course I accept that you had a negative experience on Stack OverFlow, but, without seeing your posts, and the responses to them, and knowing if your multiple ID's were possibly a factor in your being reported (was it fairly obvious you were using multiple accounts ?), etc., I would never draw any "global" inferences about Stack OverFlow from your experience ... as reported here. I see SO and CP as two different "cultures;" imho, both are characterized by fluctuating dynamics in terms of response to questions. imho, CP has much a much higher "tolerance" for posts which are: hard to interpret; ask for guidance on a very broad-level; don't have tags; contain multiple questions rolled-into-one post; etc. And, of course, comparisons are not in order because SO has no equivalent to CP's wealth of articles, tip/tricks, tech reporting, Lounge, etc. ! Both SO and CP have "dominant individuals," but I perceive the really dominant individuals on SO, like Marc Gravell, Jon Skeet, Eric Lippert, et. al., as playing somewhat different roles than dominant individuals do here on CP. I'll spare you my detailed analysis of that and just comment that I perceive more consistency, and more (implicitly) co-ordination, on SO in terms of behavior of dominant individuals compared to CP where I perceive radical differences in typical behavior per dominant individual. Let me riddle you this: if you were going to cast the role of "Darth Vader" which would you choose from: CP, or SO ? To use the old classic sociological categories, I see the culture of CP as being more "Dionysian," and "Gemeinschaft," and SO being more "Apollonian" and "Gesellschaft." To use more contemporary terms I see CP QA and Forums as being "mosh-pit free-for-all" compared to SO :) I like both, and use both, and respect both. However, I have never felt motivated to participate in SO by answering questions, as I have here. Perceiving CP and SO as two very different "planets" allows me to enjoy both without seeing either one as requiring "judging" the other. However, one area where I think StackOverFlow does excel, and where I wish I could see more of a similar excellence in CP QA and forums, is in "keeping top-level" the highest quality material. Why, I ask, rhetorically, does SO appear to have so many more voting (including down-voting) other than the obvious "demographic weight" of the number of users ? Note by saying "similar excellence" I am not saying that CP needs to become exactly like SO in any particular way; I think with the creati
