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  • C Clifford Nelson

    I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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    HobbyProggy
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    No DVD, No CD support, im done... all my epic Games from 1992 to 2000 are gone? (Don't remind me about the floppys)

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    • C Clifford Nelson

      I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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      Joan M
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      Clifford Nelson wrote:

      Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software

      You are referring only to films, aren't you? In my windows 8.1 machine I can use DVD's and CDROMS without any issue... Still not tried Windows 10...

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      • C Clifford Nelson

        I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Why should you need DVDs, when you can pay MS to store everything on-line for you?

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        • C Clifford Nelson

          I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          My 8.1 lappie doesn't have a DVD bay, so I just bought a cheap USB one and plugged it in. It installed the drivers and just worked. Alcohol 120% works fine, too. I opened several ISOs to install all the cr@p I use.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Clifford Nelson wrote:

            Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete.

            I laugh. A few weeks back I installed Win 10, plus Visual Studio .next CTP, and SQL Server 2014. Of course I needed to have the OS on a disk, but VS installed as an ISO mounted as a virtual disk just fine. Not so for SQL Server. I tried a bunch of times before finally burning the ISO to a disk and using it. I did not try Office -- I use Office 2003 anyway.

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            Of course I needed to have the OS on a disk

            Not really, you can install from usb-stick. (if you'r interested in how just google it, plenty of articles about it) My new desktop doesn't have a dvd-bay anymore, I can't even remember when the last time was I used a cd/dvd.

            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            Not so for SQL Server

            Really? Haven't had any problems with installing just from hdd (on windows 7 and 8.1, haven't tried 10 yet)

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            • C Clifford Nelson

              I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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              Rage
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              Clifford Nelson wrote:

              Office 2010

              Been running it for two years now on Win8 & Win8.1 without a single glitch.

              Clifford Nelson wrote:

              Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software

              Not sure what you mean, but my "out of the box" Media player plays DVDs, and the Windows Explorer ... explores DVD as well. I googled for it and found this : http://www.howtogeek.com/127774/how-to-play-dvds-on-windows-8/[^] :wtf: Now my question for tonight when I am back on my home machine : what the elephant gets fired up when I click on a video DVD ??? You are probably ranting because still irritated by something not working, but I do not think that Microsoft is probably not involved in it. And I just cannot believe that I have just written that. :-D

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              • C Clifford Nelson

                I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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                Richard Deeming
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                Clifford Nelson wrote:

                Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software.

                As Joan said, that's only for playing films on DVD. Data DVDs work fine, both for reading and writing. The reason isn't "BS"; to include DVD playback, Microsoft would have to pay to license the relevant codecs, which would increase the cost of the OS. VLC Player[^] will let you watch DVDs without paying for the Media Center Pack. Commercial Blu-Ray playback is much harder due to the encryption, but Google has a few suggestions if you need it.


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                • C Clifford Nelson

                  I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.

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                  JMK NI
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                  Quote:

                  On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both

                  Never had any issues with Office 2010 on either

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                  Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software.

                  VLC takes like a minute to install :doh:

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                    Clifford Nelson wrote:

                    Office 2010

                    Been running it for two years now on Win8 & Win8.1 without a single glitch.

                    Clifford Nelson wrote:

                    Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software

                    Not sure what you mean, but my "out of the box" Media player plays DVDs, and the Windows Explorer ... explores DVD as well. I googled for it and found this : http://www.howtogeek.com/127774/how-to-play-dvds-on-windows-8/[^] :wtf: Now my question for tonight when I am back on my home machine : what the elephant gets fired up when I click on a video DVD ??? You are probably ranting because still irritated by something not working, but I do not think that Microsoft is probably not involved in it. And I just cannot believe that I have just written that. :-D

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                    Lost User
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                    Rage wrote:

                    I do not think that Microsoft is probably not involved in it.

                    Yeah, seems unlikely in the light of Windows 8..

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                    • J JMK NI

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                      On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both

                      Never had any issues with Office 2010 on either

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                      Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software.

                      VLC takes like a minute to install :doh:

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                      I'm with you. I use Office 2013 on 8.1 and never even a hiccup. I also have a media PC that I play my music and DVDs through - also 8.1. I've not used Wen yet and probably won't for quite some time. I suggest that the cause of the issues stated lies elsewhere.

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