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Thoughts on the marriage of MVC and WPF?

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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Yes I am. I know the people working on it and I know how committed to it they are.

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    Ok bud what ever you say is true. I'm thinking it's a skeletal team doing skeletal things. Only time will truly tell us where WPF will go...

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      Mr. Javaman wrote:

      This idea is not that different than those saying that there is a coming convergance of C# and Javascript!

      Introduce them to the thing called "WinForms", or "Rich GUI". It would be a step back to send all over TCP/IP and use scripting, without adding any value. It's a change what you propose, yes, but not an improvement.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      Oh but nothing has to fly over the intranet for these things. Look at Node or Express, host your own WebServer in your solution. None of this requires IIS.

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        No, it's not possible to impress execs with WPF charting. That's my point. System.Windows.Forms does a better job, but not the upscale "better" big brother. BTW, there are so many free charting solutions for web pages out there it's really not possible to figure it all out. I agree MVVM is simple. 3D charting is free... again my point on the missing parts of WPF.

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        *shrug* ChartFX is pretty impressive: http://www.softwarefx.com/sfxnetproducts/chartfx/wpf/features.aspx[^] It's not free though. If you're trying to impress execs, whats $1300? Regardless... I haven't seen free web charts that look that nice, but I haven't looked since I'm anti-web. 2D charts are easy to whip up in WPF. 3D charts... yeah, I'd spend the $1300... even as a "Mr. Smarty Pants" :), I don't get the 3D APIs. I've tried a few times, but gave up. You really need to understand 3D programming to use them. The great Sacha posted a few 3D chart articles on here though, but they are just starting points. Not fully fleshed out and polished like ChartFx.

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          *shrug* ChartFX is pretty impressive: http://www.softwarefx.com/sfxnetproducts/chartfx/wpf/features.aspx[^] It's not free though. If you're trying to impress execs, whats $1300? Regardless... I haven't seen free web charts that look that nice, but I haven't looked since I'm anti-web. 2D charts are easy to whip up in WPF. 3D charts... yeah, I'd spend the $1300... even as a "Mr. Smarty Pants" :), I don't get the 3D APIs. I've tried a few times, but gave up. You really need to understand 3D programming to use them. The great Sacha posted a few 3D chart articles on here though, but they are just starting points. Not fully fleshed out and polished like ChartFx.

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          Hey Sledge, Take a look at this one: d3js.org[^] And then take a look here: Google Charts[^] Both free!

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            Hey Sledge, Take a look at this one: d3js.org[^] And then take a look here: Google Charts[^] Both free!

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            I checked it out. Looks OK for the 2D charts. Google does have a 3D pie chart. Doesn't look "bad" or anything... just the 3D pie chart from ChartFX looks way cooler IMO. Better angle on the pie (which I'm sure you can maybe adjust in the Google API), but I like the "shine" on the ChartFX one, gives it pop -- impresses execs LOL. Also, they have a lot of other 3D charts that Google doesn't have. If I was "told" to use the google charts, I would LOL, but I'd push for something better. I'm just going off the pics of course. If I was evaluating ChartFX, I'd have to download the trial and mess around with it. Some libs look cool in screenshots, but its very difficult to reproduce in code or performance is bad, etc.

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              Oh but nothing has to fly over the intranet for these things. Look at Node or Express, host your own WebServer in your solution. None of this requires IIS.

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              Mr. Javaman wrote:

              Oh but nothing has to fly over the intranet for these things.

              Aw, goody. You're still running in a limited environment, where the known and documented path would be the natural choice.

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              host your own WebServer in your solution.

              And this webserver would work without TCP/IP? 'Cause that is what I was referring to, wasn't it?

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                Mr. Javaman wrote:

                Oh but nothing has to fly over the intranet for these things.

                Aw, goody. You're still running in a limited environment, where the known and documented path would be the natural choice.

                Mr. Javaman wrote:

                host your own WebServer in your solution.

                And this webserver would work without TCP/IP? 'Cause that is what I was referring to, wasn't it?

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                As if Pipes, and IPC were any better? c'mon give me a break bastard programmer from hell.

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                  As if Pipes, and IPC were any better? c'mon give me a break bastard programmer from hell.

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                  Mr. Javaman wrote:

                  As if Pipes, and IPC were any better?

                  If it is a single native process, you do not need IPC. There is no argumentation to justify a redundant layer.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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