Are we running out of Ipv4 address or is it Y2K all over again
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Must had been a US thing or the circles you move in because here in the UK I work with some very highly paid professionals who are MVP/MCP/MCSD/Msc/Phd and many are saying the same as me. Not a question of wanting to see the world come to an end but we were all ready to earn some serious cash working over christmas but the offers never came in so we all knew it was hot air. Euro conversion was much bigger not that it created a gold rush like we all wanted Anyway why is it a good thing for US corporations to sit on so many un used IP's ? You do know that Ipv6 gives us something like four hundred million, billion time more addreses than we have Ipv4 addresses and as you know from my comments above i like making money but not at the cost of becomeing watched more than i am now. Ipv5 at 8 bits, not 16, would suite me fine
Possibly the industries I was working in at the time - I was heavily in industrial systems then. Perhaps you just weren't in the right field - and I'm based in the UK as well.
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
switching over to Euro's kept ten times more people in work than Y2K ever did, myself included
So you experienced the alternative timeline and then decided to go with this one? Such statements are produced by politicians in an effort to justify and potentially window dress their decisions. Exception thrown: No data available for Euro-free Europe since 01.01.2002.
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VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch Data held in the database as french franks needed converting as did front ends that didn't show the euro symbol, both need work in my Quantum "alternative timeline" I am no fan of the Euro and the "EC" mark is not a sign of quality or saftey but of a monopoly
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VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch Data held in the database as french franks needed converting as did front ends that didn't show the euro symbol, both need work in my Quantum "alternative timeline" I am no fan of the Euro and the "EC" mark is not a sign of quality or saftey but of a monopoly
Dr Gadgit wrote:
VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch
Thing is - these were fairly modern (at the time). Y2K was about systems that had been around since the 60s/70s (even some from the 80s). When they were written, it was never envisaged that they would survive as long, and that's where Y2K came from.
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VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch Data held in the database as french franks needed converting as did front ends that didn't show the euro symbol, both need work in my Quantum "alternative timeline" I am no fan of the Euro and the "EC" mark is not a sign of quality or saftey but of a monopoly
Fair enough, if you based that statement on a specific requirement at that time. Exception handled :)
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Possibly the industries I was working in at the time - I was heavily in industrial systems then. Perhaps you just weren't in the right field - and I'm based in the UK as well.
I was working for BT at the time in Matelsham research labs as a contractor and got to play with 2mb internet before anyone else i knew. MS-Access, bit of Excell, SQL-Server 6.5 and i think it was VB4, maybe VB5 was my field at the time so maybe i needed to be more into AS400's or something like COLBOLT to have got any offers. Also used NT4 server, didn't like XP98, too soft for me at the time
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Fair enough, if you based that statement on a specific requirement at that time. Exception handled :)
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I was working for BT at the time in Matelsham research labs as a contractor and got to play with 2mb internet before anyone else i knew. MS-Access, bit of Excell, SQL-Server 6.5 and i think it was VB4, maybe VB5 was my field at the time so maybe i needed to be more into AS400's or something like COLBOLT to have got any offers. Also used NT4 server, didn't like XP98, too soft for me at the time
Try dedicated DCS. These were all proprietary systems. Not fun. Lucrative, but not fun.
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
No need to count to know we have more ants in the world than people.
Ehr.. it is not about ants. If you claim that more money is made on the introduction of the Euro (for some merely a change in Windows-settings) than the Y2k bug cost, then I expect something to back that claim.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
I did not say your work was a hoax
No, it was just implied.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
guess someone must had harcoded "19" into to programs somewhere in the world but it's not like the number moved from being a INT to a Long or anything.
Keep guessing, if you do it long enough you'll be right sometime.
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I gave you the logic for my statement and I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam. Now I am not alone in my thoughts in Y2K but admit i am on my own about saying we are not running out of ipv4 addresses so why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic !
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I gave you the logic for my statement and I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam. Now I am not alone in my thoughts in Y2K but admit i am on my own about saying we are not running out of ipv4 addresses so why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic !
Dr Gadgit wrote:
I gave you the logic for my statement
Yes, by stating you need not count ants.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam.
Correct, it is a statement without argumentation. Might be because there is no Y2k1 bug.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic !
Because you made the connection in your first post. I also already gave my argumentation on that one.
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
I gave you the logic for my statement
Yes, by stating you need not count ants.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam.
Correct, it is a statement without argumentation. Might be because there is no Y2k1 bug.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic !
Because you made the connection in your first post. I also already gave my argumentation on that one.
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch
Thing is - these were fairly modern (at the time). Y2K was about systems that had been around since the 60s/70s (even some from the 80s). When they were written, it was never envisaged that they would survive as long, and that's where Y2K came from.
Yes i think you are right with that reply and i was not working in banking at the time so maybe this is why i see things difrent to some people here. The closes i got to Colbolt was a weekend when someone working for me tipped a cup of coffey over a keyboard that was conected to a huge machine that cost millions back in the early 80's and i bricked myself because you could not pop down the road to pick one of these things up like today. Well we cleaned the keyboard in the bath, dried it slow in the oven as you do, chucked it back in and that was that :) The office did not need any heating, the computer did that for them.
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Possibly the industries I was working in at the time - I was heavily in industrial systems then. Perhaps you just weren't in the right field - and I'm based in the UK as well.
I have been known to work on Simens PLC Controls but they didn't have dates and just used ladders. Looks like the other poster nailed it with banking and old colbolt systems and i was not working in banking at the time using anything like that. What systems were you working on ?
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I have been known to work on Simens PLC Controls but they didn't have dates and just used ladders. Looks like the other poster nailed it with banking and old colbolt systems and i was not working in banking at the time using anything like that. What systems were you working on ?
Plant reading systems - oil fields.
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I also spent a lot of time fixing Y2K issues. A lot of developers I have worked with in the 90s also worked on Y2K. The reason that people regard Y2K as a big hoax is because companies spent a fortune correcting problems. It's as though people feel cheated because power plants didn't explode.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It's as though people feel cheated because power plants didn't explode.
Well, yes. We were promised the apocalypse. Food, water, fuel and illegal weapons were hoarded, because it was necessary to survive. Nothing significant happened.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It's as though people feel cheated because power plants didn't explode.
Well, yes. We were promised the apocalypse. Food, water, fuel and illegal weapons were hoarded, because it was necessary to survive. Nothing significant happened.
Well sorry.
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I gave you the logic for my statement and I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam. Now I am not alone in my thoughts in Y2K but admit i am on my own about saying we are not running out of ipv4 addresses so why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic !
Dr Gadgit wrote:
millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam.
Just shows how many people have no understanding of what the issue was. Indeed how could it be a scam, since no one made any illegal money from it. And even now we see examples of programmers writing code that is not Y2K compliant: largely because they do not understand some of the basic issues.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It's as though people feel cheated because power plants didn't explode.
Well, yes. We were promised the apocalypse. Food, water, fuel and illegal weapons were hoarded, because it was necessary to survive. Nothing significant happened.
harold aptroot wrote:
Nothing significant happened.
It would indeed have been more fun if they had not given a warning a year in advance. Now, since when does mass-media describe a technical issue in a non-hyping and technically correct (read 'boring') way? No new Y2k bug for some time - it'll be all about cyberwars, cyberterrorists and cybercrime now.
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harold aptroot wrote:
Nothing significant happened.
It would indeed have been more fun if they had not given a warning a year in advance. Now, since when does mass-media describe a technical issue in a non-hyping and technically correct (read 'boring') way? No new Y2k bug for some time - it'll be all about cyberwars, cyberterrorists and cybercrime now.
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