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is Language important for s/w development ?

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  • R ravikhoda

    we as a software developer get more chance to work with global customers as compare to other industry, different native language may be a problem sometimes for better communication but is it okay to reject some talented person just because he/she is not good with other languages? he/she is strong in doing what he is assign to do but with less good communication skills. According to you how much weightage should be given to such soft skills in overall development of a candidate?

    Ravi Khoda Humanity is the best religion and smile is the best medicine.

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    F ES Sitecore
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    I sometimes get the impression that prospective developers seem to think "how to" is the only English they need *sigh*

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      For someone who is such a stickler for attention he didn't pay much attention to his url, did he? :omg: :-\ :laugh: :laugh:

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      :thumbsup: That was what I too noticed :-)

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Depends on the company, depends on the country. In the UK, it's uncommon for employees to speak anything other than English (Welsh and other regional languages like Geordie and Yorkshire excepted) so it's not a requirement. In other countries like Switzerland, multilingualism is the norm, and a good command of English, German (or more likely Switzerdeutsch), and probably French is pretty much expected. If a role requires talking to people in a language - perhaps a close working relationship with a Japanese or Chinese company - then a good command of that language would only be a benefit. But for most software developers, the regional language is sufficient, though a good command of English can help a lot with the documentation! :laugh:

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        Marco Bertschi
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        In other countries like Switzerland, multilingualism is the norm, and a good command of English, German (or more likely Switzerdeutsch), and probably French is pretty much expected.

        Don't expect any swiss guy to speak fluent english. Usually they have a strong Accent and a small amount of words known to them. We got different Areas with different native languages spoken (mainly German/Swiss German, French and Italian [not counting in the Balkan languages you hear, depending on the neighbourhood). Don't expect me to speak French. Don't expect me to speak Italian. I speak german or english.

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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          In other countries like Switzerland, multilingualism is the norm, and a good command of English, German (or more likely Switzerdeutsch), and probably French is pretty much expected.

          Don't expect any swiss guy to speak fluent english. Usually they have a strong Accent and a small amount of words known to them. We got different Areas with different native languages spoken (mainly German/Swiss German, French and Italian [not counting in the Balkan languages you hear, depending on the neighbourhood). Don't expect me to speak French. Don't expect me to speak Italian. I speak german or english.

          "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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          Most of the Swiss I've met have been in / around Geneva, so the presence of CERN may well have skewed my impression towards a higher percentage of English speakers. (No, I never worked there - but I had a girlfriend who did)

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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            In other countries like Switzerland, multilingualism is the norm, and a good command of English, German (or more likely Switzerdeutsch), and probably French is pretty much expected.

            Don't expect any swiss guy to speak fluent english. Usually they have a strong Accent and a small amount of words known to them. We got different Areas with different native languages spoken (mainly German/Swiss German, French and Italian [not counting in the Balkan languages you hear, depending on the neighbourhood). Don't expect me to speak French. Don't expect me to speak Italian. I speak german or english.

            "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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            Most of the Swiss I've met have been in / around Geneva, so the presence of CERN may well have skewed my impression towards a higher percentage of English speakers. (No, I never worked there - but I had a girlfriend who did.)

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • R ravikhoda

              we as a software developer get more chance to work with global customers as compare to other industry, different native language may be a problem sometimes for better communication but is it okay to reject some talented person just because he/she is not good with other languages? he/she is strong in doing what he is assign to do but with less good communication skills. According to you how much weightage should be given to such soft skills in overall development of a candidate?

              Ravi Khoda Humanity is the best religion and smile is the best medicine.

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              dandy72
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              If the candidate isn't applying for a job that requires him to come up with strings that get displayed to an end user, then as long as he can communicate effectively with other team members, I wouldn't automatically disqualify an otherwise good coder. That said, if I may rant for a second, I'm French-Canadian, and I despise non-English versions of any operating system or software. It's all a big waste of resources IMO.

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