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[Nitron]

Brit wrote: Kinda strange that the US' highest divorce rates occur in the Bible Belt, isn't it? Not really. Just as there are different flavors of atheism, there are (sadly) even more flavors of Christianity. I have met many self proclaiming "Christians" who behave in stark contrast to the teachings of the bible. IMO the "bible-belt" term is overrated. - Nitron

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[Shog9 0]

David Wulff wrote: People certainly don't seem to want to put the effort into life anymore. I was gonna reply with a detailed essay on why you are wrong about this... ...but, eh, don't wanna bother typing that much. ---

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[brianwelsch]

David Wulff wrote: People certainly don't seem to want to put the effort into life anymore. I've thought that too, included myself, added various factors, shook it up for a bit, and ended out wondering if things weren't always that way. I mean why all of a sudden would people become too lazy? Granted they don't generally need to worry about food and shelter, and with the ease of transportation and communication today, people have more and more free time to fill. Which brings about boredom, I think, not laziness. I find myself often wondering, what the hell am I doing, besides filling in the empty spaces of time between eating and crapping. Alliavating(sp?) boredom is what I'm doing. Whether its by spending "quality time" with loved ones, or surfing the net, or drinking beer and shooting billiards, programming something, reading, whatever.... Even if I had a more structured approach to filling in the time, like helping kids learn to read, or help the homeless get on their feet, etc.. I'm still doing it primarily to keep myself occupied. It comes down to finding what activity makes me happiest. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

[Nemanja Trifunovic]

Paul Watson wrote: Sex, making love is just the most glorious thing Sex is OK, but I prefer a cold beer.

[peterchen]

Paul Watson wrote: Sex, making love is just the most glorious thing, for all involved For this thing alone, I'm willing to put up with all those emancipatory bullsh*t. Life hasn't always been this - let me quote something else to illustrate this: "Because of [reasons]. That's why I will go into this room tomorrow, will bare the untouched, and rape her under the noise of gun shots." "OK. Until then, let's go swimming."

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[Lost User]

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[Christian Graus]

In my opinion it's a simple fact that people don't take marriage seriously, and bail as soon as any disagreement occurs. Also, society is more amoral, and so more people cheat just for the sake of interesting sex, or because they think a great lover is a man who has lots of woman, not a man who keeps one woman happy for their lives. I think it's good in so far as I think in the past women especially felt compelled to stay in terrible situations that no-one should endure. But it's bad in that too many kids grow up in broken homes. My niece and nephew are examples. They will have many partners, because that seems normal to them, they are growing up with it. I don't think Nish's attitude is a problem, most women would be aware of it before they married someone with his views. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

[Christian Graus]

Agreed, 100%. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

Hmmm...having recently been through "just some paperwork and a legal settlement" I can tell you it's not something anyone in their right mind would contemplate unless they had no alternative. The whole process is confrontational, expensive and extremely destressing. Losing the partner I thought was my soulmate is the most horrible thing I've ever had to do and in all honesty changing my apparent gender was easy by comparison. Over a year after proceedings started they're still not complete and I still regularly cry myself to sleep because I miss Karen so much - but I know I had no choice in leaving. :(( Sorry I'm not very coherant but I've been trying to keep going as normal with this on my mind for 3 days now and it's eating me apart. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia Graesch

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[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

Hun divorce isn't easy believe me. I thought I'd found my soulmate and I was wrong. With hindsight it was so obvious - but not to us. Now it's happened friends have told me they saw it coming long ago. Pressure from family to get married and have kids only made this outcome ultimately more likely. I miss her, but I can't go back. I can't be someone else anymore. :(( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia Graesch

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[Lost User]

Paul Watson wrote: What do you attribute the spiralling divorce rate in modern society to? Too many people are spoilt and self centred. They are unable and/or unwilling to play a little give and take so the relationship can work. It seems to be getting worse with every year that passes now. I don't get it. I'm 34 and coming up on 12 years of marriage. Shit is pretty fucking rocky from a financial view. If I was one of the spineless masses out there I would have already run. I think too many people dive in head first without any idea what they are getting themselves into. Then just go fuck it, time for a divorce. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

[Jon Newman]

If there was adequate grounds for a divorce, it should mean that the marriage was far worse than the split up, otherwise you would not bother. I know retrospectivly, it was hard (and I can't say i've been through it myself), but if people knew how hard it was to go through it, they might not think of it as some paperwork, and what it is, the traumatic 'un-vowing'. I can only imagine how hard it would be to say to myself "I'm sorry, but the vows I made were wrong", it would make me feel stupid (if thats the right word) for making them in the first place because you would think twice before vowing/promising anything in the future. Sorry if I come over as "Tough shit your divorced, you should have thought about this earlier" I don't mean too, I know there are cases where its for the best and can work out well, and I truly symathise with you. One thing I reaqlly don't agree with is splitting when you have young children, the parents should make every effort to stay together until the child has left home. I know, my uncle is doing this, him and his wife are waiting untill the kids are grown up and leaving home before they decide to do anything. Once again it brings up the saying "Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all", I have no 'real' say in the matter as I have never been in love and can't say that anyone has ever returned the favour. So losing someone like that would be beyond my comprehension. My £1.52......

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[Steven Hicks n 1]

Nitron wrote: Lack of religion; not letting God into your relationship. Good point.. you might want to have your flame resistant jacket on though ;). -Steven

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[Nitron]

Steven Hicks wrote: Good point.. you might want to have your flame resistant jacket on though . It's starting to melt through ;P (See the thread above) - Nitron

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[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

I know hun it just hurts so much to see people discussing something that's so painful to me at the moment. Although Karen asked me for a divorce in Christmas 2001, I still have the Valentine's card she gave me the following February and reading it makes me cry every time. The truth is that despite all the anger and stress of the last year we still love each other (though she won't admit it I can see it and so can others) but we couldn't live together any longer. She couldn't cope with my transition, and I couldn't stay as I was once I accepted how I felt. Believe me, I tried. In the end my kids were suffering because of the conflict between Karen and I so leaving was really the only option. I miss them like crazy. :(( I would give almost anything not to have been born this way, but I have been and now the best thing I can do is put my life back together and try to help others as best I can. The worst thing is that talking to others I find my story is so very common. It's my hope that as society becomes more enlightened more dysphorics will come forward for treatment at a younger age - before they start families. The tragedy then of course is that there's no prospect of medical science being able to give us the ability to carry children for many years to come. For the trans-men out there, their chances of fathering a child are even more remote. Until that happens, we'll never have much prospect of a "normal" life. :( Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears

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- Marcia Graesch

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[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

Too true. :( Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears

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- Marcia Graesch

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[Paul Watson]

David Wulff wrote: People certainly don't seem to want to put the effort into life anymore. I disagree. I am realising more and more that what we see is change is more a case of improved communication and awareness of a greater human population. In other words 200 years ago the percentage of lazy buggers and weak fools was just as great as today. The only difference is back then you only knew about the ones in your village and the hamlet down the river. So you assumed that it was just your lame ass village. Now though we see all villages are the same.

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Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

[Debs 0]

I'm of the opinion that human beings are not basically biologically-speaking monogamous; we just turn out to be (sometimes) as a result of social conditioning and expectations, depending on an accident of where we live and who we meet. So it's hardly surprising that if such social constraints are loosened that some take advantage of it. Debbie

[Debs 0]

Jeremy Falcon wrote: They are trying to mold the person (aka control), but they don’t think they are controlling. That’s the key point to remember! They don’t think they are! I can't really argue with you here, as clearly you are under the impression that, as a woman, I am really not at all in tune with my needs or wants and that my conscious has no idea as to what I really am doing. :confused: Ah well, I'll give it a crack anyway, :wtf:, because I'd hate to think that some poor sap would try to be controlling to win the woman of his dreams based on the gospel according to you. :eek: How on earth can you be pigeon-hole women in such a fashion? I know women who do genuinely like to control, and men that like to be controlled. Likewise I know couples where that role is reversed, and they are both genuinely happy with the circumstances. There are also many, many partnerships that have a more equal footing, and the power exchange invariably shifts in subtle circumstances depending upon the individual's abilities and desires. But it is an INDIVIDUAL thing. Sure, you can generalise on gender, but it is all pretty meaningless when it comes down to an individual, and to say that " it tends to hold true in damn near every case" is maybe the case for you, based on your (rather biased) perception, but not for me, and I'm not such a statistical abbheration, well, not based on the groups I mix with anyway. Debbie

[Jeremy Falcon]

You're a shining example of the women mentality. For one, you're taking this way too damn emotionally and personally. But, women (and girly guys) lean towards emotion while men leans towards logic - that's just life. Debs wrote: How on earth can you be pigeon-hole women in such a fashion? Tell me, where did I belittle women? If you think that's the case, you should read my other posts on CP where I refer to them as mainly bitches. However, in THIS post, I simply state that women think differently - not worse, not better. Any implications on that matter were something that you created in your head. Debs wrote: I know women who do genuinely like to control, and men that like to be controlled. Likewise I know couples where that role is reversed, and they are both genuinely happy with the circumstances. And the person in control never really fantasizes about the person they're controlling, now do they? Tell me, did you even read my post? Debs wrote: There are also many, many partnerships that have a more equal footing, and the power exchange invariably shifts in subtle circumstances depending upon the individual's abilities and desires. Bullshit! That's only what they let you see. Didn't you ever keep any secrets with your significant other(s) that you didn't want the world knowing - even a good friend? I sure as hell know every women I get involved with that opens up doesn't want me leaking the "secret" info. Debs wrote: but not for me, and I'm not such a statistical abbheration, well, not based on the groups I mix with anyway. So tell me, in your past or current relationship(s), who broke up with whom and/or who makes the most decisions? And, don't give me the "it shifts back and forth" crap, be LOGICAL and OBJECTIVE and think about it. Jeremy Falcon