Then, before the final hiring decision was made, Number #4 sent you this e-mail
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Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
Would I trust him? Probably not. It smacks too much of an afterthought on his way home: "Oh carp! It was a test! What do I do?" Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen. Exactly the same as when you remove goods from a shop, they are stolen the second you step outside. "Intent" isn't the point here - actions are.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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I guess other candidates have not yet been excluded... But what's the story on the $100-bill?
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megaadam wrote:
what's the story on the $100-bill?
In case ye not spake tongue-in-cheek: [^] cheers, Bill
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Would I trust him? Probably not. It smacks too much of an afterthought on his way home: "Oh carp! It was a test! What do I do?" Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen. Exactly the same as when you remove goods from a shop, they are stolen the second you step outside. "Intent" isn't the point here - actions are.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Would I trust him? Probably not. It smacks too much of an afterthought on his way home: "Oh carp! It was a test! What do I do?" Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen. Exactly the same as when you remove goods from a shop, they are stolen the second you step outside. "Intent" isn't the point here - actions are.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
Once you remove the money from the company premises, it's stolen
Wrong. It's "found". I would have turned it in after the code task and told the receptionist that $50/hour ain't gonna cut it, and if someone wants to seriously negotiate salary, they have my number.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
And BTW, not connecting the computer to the internet is a travesty, since we all know that answers are found there. You could easily monitor what they do online, not to mention restrict access to google, cp, and stackoverflow.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
And BTW, not connecting the computer to the internet is a travesty, since we all know that answers are found there. You could easily monitor what they do online, not to mention restrict access to google, cp, and stackoverflow.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
No. Especially if 4 was thinking the $100 to a distraction from the very first moment, he should no touch it...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
to go into your story: I would go for the one who noticed, but kept his head focused on the job and only told afterwards, or the one who did not notice. The one who turned it in immediately was maybe ethical, but in my opinion he had other things to do and since that bill was obviously there for some time, that task was not urgent. Sounds to me like he wanted to appear "special". The one who took it is plainly a thief whatever he may say. The money is not his to donate, is it? Even if he is not lying on his email, clearly he did not think the 100$ bill was important enough to someone else and he "forgot" about it? It is unethical any which way you look at it. (and I would reply this to him as well) My scenario would have been: pick it up and put it (clearly visible) next to me on the desk. Give it to the interviewer when he comes back.
V.
(MQOTD rules and previous solutions)
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Dear Redacted, I enjoyed interviewing at redacted, and I would very much like to join your team. I am confident that: given my skills, and the code I wrote for you, I completely qualify for the position. I would like you to know why I took the US $100 bill, and walked away with it. I think that "staged psychological tests," like leaving the bill in plain sight, are a kind of manipulation that distracts the job candidate, and are less than fully "ethical." While some forms of psychological stress-testing may well be within ethical boundaries during an interview ... for example, having the person being tested take the test in an environment that has the same levels of noise, and distractions, that would occur in the actual work environment the candidate will work in, if hired ... I think "staging" a very improbable scenario is deceptive, and, also, not a valid predictor of work-related behavior. While I doubt that someone in your company (or another person being interviewed) actually lost the US $100 bill, if that is the case, please respond immediately, and I'll see it is returned to them. Assuming you did "plant" the US $100 bill, I will donate that amount to the scholarship fund sponsored by CodeProject in the name of your company that, this year, will help a talented young programmer who wants to pursue academic study, but whose resources do not permit enrolling in a top-tier college, cover their first year tuition, and fees, at one of North America's top colleges for computer science. I have participated in CodeProject for years, and I am delighted to see the scholarship project has raised over US$ 50,000 to date. One brilliant young person from a relaively "disadvantaged" background, is going to have an opportunity, and a challenge, to better their life, and the lives of their family. sincerely, Joe Betty-Sue Candidate
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
