I'm Thinking of Changing My System
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I am thinking of having the following system built in the cheapest case I can find. I will then transfer the 3 HDs and DVD R/W out of my old system to complete the build. Are there any changes you would make? Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake 3.40 GHz Quad Core Socket 1151 Processor 8GB x 2 HyperX Black Fury DDR4 2133MHz Memory Module Asus Z170M-Plus, Intel Z170A, DDR4, 4 X Slots, Max Memory Support 3466 MHz, 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 VGA | HDMI | DVI Motherboard High Quality Standard Cooler MSI R7 240 AMD 2 GB Radeon Graphics Card 500W - Cooler Master B500 Power Supply
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I am thinking of having the following system built in the cheapest case I can find. I will then transfer the 3 HDs and DVD R/W out of my old system to complete the build. Are there any changes you would make? Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake 3.40 GHz Quad Core Socket 1151 Processor 8GB x 2 HyperX Black Fury DDR4 2133MHz Memory Module Asus Z170M-Plus, Intel Z170A, DDR4, 4 X Slots, Max Memory Support 3466 MHz, 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 VGA | HDMI | DVI Motherboard High Quality Standard Cooler MSI R7 240 AMD 2 GB Radeon Graphics Card 500W - Cooler Master B500 Power Supply
Dump one of the HDD's and replace it with an SSD. The difference to load times - both OS and app - is so great it changed the way I work, because I can load apps fast enough to not leave them running "in case I need them again" - which frees up RAM and makes everything else work faster.
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I am thinking of having the following system built in the cheapest case I can find. I will then transfer the 3 HDs and DVD R/W out of my old system to complete the build. Are there any changes you would make? Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake 3.40 GHz Quad Core Socket 1151 Processor 8GB x 2 HyperX Black Fury DDR4 2133MHz Memory Module Asus Z170M-Plus, Intel Z170A, DDR4, 4 X Slots, Max Memory Support 3466 MHz, 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 VGA | HDMI | DVI Motherboard High Quality Standard Cooler MSI R7 240 AMD 2 GB Radeon Graphics Card 500W - Cooler Master B500 Power Supply
I'd leave it as is... Facebook works perfectly fine with that configuration! :doh:
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Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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I'd leave it as is... Facebook works perfectly fine with that configuration! :doh:
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Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
Anti-social bugger, huh? My bad... ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
Dump one of the HDD's and replace it with an SSD. The difference to load times - both OS and app - is so great it changed the way I work, because I can load apps fast enough to not leave them running "in case I need them again" - which frees up RAM and makes everything else work faster.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Good point! An SSD enhances the experience extremely, even if its just an 128gb SSD that contains the OS and "heavy" apps like Visual Studio and Office. My current Disk setup (which is currently changing) is 1 128GB SSD for OS and productive Apps, 2x WD 10k rpm disks with 300GB to provide a faster access on programs that don't fit the SSD (one is going to be replaced though by a 2TB DataStore), 1x 600GB standard HDD and 1x 1Tb DataStorage. The small HDD's are going to be replaced by bigger ones that have standard specs cause the SSD basically fills up everything that needs fast reading. Maybe a Hybrid would also be good for huge dataloads :)
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Dump one of the HDD's and replace it with an SSD. The difference to load times - both OS and app - is so great it changed the way I work, because I can load apps fast enough to not leave them running "in case I need them again" - which frees up RAM and makes everything else work faster.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Dump one of the HDD's and replace it with an SSD. The difference to load times - both OS and app - is so great it changed the way I work, because I can load apps fast enough to not leave them running "in case I need them again" - which frees up RAM and makes everything else work faster.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I assume the SSD would replace the operating system disk. (The other two disks hold only data.) That would mean a complete re-install of Win10 and all my other programs. I was hoping to get away without doing that.
That's the idea, yes - OS and Apps go on the SSD, data on the HDD (because it changes more). But a re-install isn't necessarily needed - when I switched in February, I used AOMEI Partition Assistant[^] to move it - it has a "Migrate OS to SSD" wizard which did it all for me. Took less than 30 minutes for Win10 and all my apps and it did the whole thing for me! (And it's free, which is truly amazing) Win 10 didn't even ask for a key or complain about anything! :laugh:
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did you fix your machine ? graft everything into a new case with decent psu ?
Oh yes! 200W became 500W, fans got supersized, and the new case even has a mounting for the SSD drive!
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That's the idea, yes - OS and Apps go on the SSD, data on the HDD (because it changes more). But a re-install isn't necessarily needed - when I switched in February, I used AOMEI Partition Assistant[^] to move it - it has a "Migrate OS to SSD" wizard which did it all for me. Took less than 30 minutes for Win10 and all my apps and it did the whole thing for me! (And it's free, which is truly amazing) Win 10 didn't even ask for a key or complain about anything! :laugh:
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Thanks for that very useful information, OG. With it being that easy, I will definitely look at switching to an SSD. After all, I am building the new machine to get the maximum speed out of it. I presume I need to install the current HD and the SSD and boot up Win10 from the HD, install AOMEI Partition Assistant and then do the transfer from HD to SSD. I presume I would then have to alter the boot order in the BIOS to boot from the SSD.
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Thanks for that very useful information, OG. With it being that easy, I will definitely look at switching to an SSD. After all, I am building the new machine to get the maximum speed out of it. I presume I need to install the current HD and the SSD and boot up Win10 from the HD, install AOMEI Partition Assistant and then do the transfer from HD to SSD. I presume I would then have to alter the boot order in the BIOS to boot from the SSD.
Pretty much, yes. IIRC, AOMEI sorted out the boot order for me as well, so I didn't have to do it. And it makes a huge difference! I got a SanDisk Ultra II 960GB which is fast enough and cost me £160 (plus a SATA III interface card as my MB only supported 2 * SATA II connections and I needed three anyway: SSD, HDD, and DVD) and I can load VS2013 and the complete solution in 7 seconds - ready to start typing!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Anti-social bugger, huh? My bad... ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeShh!! I'm watching paint dry :laugh:
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Oh yes! 200W became 500W, fans got supersized, and the new case even has a mounting for the SSD drive!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
excellent :-D
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Pretty much, yes. IIRC, AOMEI sorted out the boot order for me as well, so I didn't have to do it. And it makes a huge difference! I got a SanDisk Ultra II 960GB which is fast enough and cost me £160 (plus a SATA III interface card as my MB only supported 2 * SATA II connections and I needed three anyway: SSD, HDD, and DVD) and I can load VS2013 and the complete solution in 7 seconds - ready to start typing!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Anti-social bugger, huh? My bad... ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeAt my age, most of the friends I would wish to communicate with can't even use a tablet properly let alone social media. The only people that complain are my two granddaughters who, unfortunately, live in Australia. My wife, bless her, tries, and sometimes succeeds, to look at their Facebook pages and whatever else they use.
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Thanks for that very useful information, OG. With it being that easy, I will definitely look at switching to an SSD. After all, I am building the new machine to get the maximum speed out of it. I presume I need to install the current HD and the SSD and boot up Win10 from the HD, install AOMEI Partition Assistant and then do the transfer from HD to SSD. I presume I would then have to alter the boot order in the BIOS to boot from the SSD.
I did that a little while ago, also following OG's advice. Worked as expected.
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Oh yes! 200W became 500W, fans got supersized, and the new case even has a mounting for the SSD drive!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
200W became 500W, fans got supersized
And the fact that your PC is now an helicopter does not bother you ? :rolleyes:
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I am thinking of having the following system built in the cheapest case I can find. I will then transfer the 3 HDs and DVD R/W out of my old system to complete the build. Are there any changes you would make? Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake 3.40 GHz Quad Core Socket 1151 Processor 8GB x 2 HyperX Black Fury DDR4 2133MHz Memory Module Asus Z170M-Plus, Intel Z170A, DDR4, 4 X Slots, Max Memory Support 3466 MHz, 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 VGA | HDMI | DVI Motherboard High Quality Standard Cooler MSI R7 240 AMD 2 GB Radeon Graphics Card 500W - Cooler Master B500 Power Supply
I just built a box a few months ago with almost the same parts: - Intel Core i7-6700 8M Quad-Core 4.0 GHZ - 32 gigs ram (G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series) - same motherboard (I originally got a Gigabyte Z170X-UD5, it crapped out) - Deepcool Gammaxx S40 CPU cooler - Gigabyte Radeon R9 380 graphics card (tried to go with onboard graphics but it kept crashing with the Gigabyte Mobo) - 750W Cooler Master power supply - 1 Terabyte Samsung SSD - Antec Three Hundred Two case. If I had it all to do over again, I would have gotten the regular locked Core i7 processor with the stock cooler...I'm never going to overclock this computer. So far, the system is working great aside from the initial troubles with the GB Mobo and deciding after on getting a graphics card. Makes my old Core i7 920 look like a 386 :) ...the SSD made a big difference.
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Pretty much, yes. IIRC, AOMEI sorted out the boot order for me as well, so I didn't have to do it. And it makes a huge difference! I got a SanDisk Ultra II 960GB which is fast enough and cost me £160 (plus a SATA III interface card as my MB only supported 2 * SATA II connections and I needed three anyway: SSD, HDD, and DVD) and I can load VS2013 and the complete solution in 7 seconds - ready to start typing!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
To add to Griff's good advice: Take a look at Samsung's 850 PRO series of SSD's. They are more expensive than the "regular" EVO series, but are based on a new technology which is supposed to greatly extend their life. Go for PRO if you can afford it. My 512GB cost me $217. Warning: Leave the Samsung CD in its sleeve. You don't need it. The drive works great out-of-the-box. The Samsung software will offer to upgrade your drive's firmware. Do NOT do this. A great many Amazon customers complained that it totally ruined their drives. Is the BIOS on your main board capable of booting UEFI? Do you want a legacy or UEFI boot? See this (My apologies for the plug): Preparing a Drive for UEFI Boot[^]
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