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    Joe Woodbury
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    Cameron just announced he's sticking around for three months. Assuming there is a desire to shorten Cameron's stay, what are the parliamentary procedure to force an election? 1) Can a motion of no-confidence simply be presented by either side? 2) Can the queen dissolve parliament without being asked to do so by the Prime Minister? 3) I believe the queen could simply appoint a new Prime Minister, but is this still the case? (And would she dare?)

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      Cameron just announced he's sticking around for three months. Assuming there is a desire to shorten Cameron's stay, what are the parliamentary procedure to force an election? 1) Can a motion of no-confidence simply be presented by either side? 2) Can the queen dissolve parliament without being asked to do so by the Prime Minister? 3) I believe the queen could simply appoint a new Prime Minister, but is this still the case? (And would she dare?)

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      1. Yes. 2) Only if given sufficient strong Hydrofluoric acid... 3) Even if she could, she wouldn't: she stays out of politics (and I can't say I blame her at all)

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        1. Yes. 2) Only if given sufficient strong Hydrofluoric acid... 3) Even if she could, she wouldn't: she stays out of politics (and I can't say I blame her at all)

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Joe Woodbury
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        3)(and I can't say I blame her at all)

        Neither do I; I just wondered what the monarch's actual authority was in this regard. BTW, since Cameron's is a coalition government, if the Lib Dems decide to do so, can they present a motion of no-confidence? Or would it have to be be presented by the coalition, if they so chose. (And how does the leave vote affect Clegg, besides losing his immediate job along with Cameron?)

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          3)(and I can't say I blame her at all)

          Neither do I; I just wondered what the monarch's actual authority was in this regard. BTW, since Cameron's is a coalition government, if the Lib Dems decide to do so, can they present a motion of no-confidence? Or would it have to be be presented by the coalition, if they so chose. (And how does the leave vote affect Clegg, besides losing his immediate job along with Cameron?)

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          It's not a coalition - it's been a majority government since 2015: Election 2015 - BBC News[^] Clegg? Clegg....clegg...Oh! The Tea Boy! He didn't even retain his seat in parliament at the last general election, and his party lost 49 seats out of their 57 and is pretty much no longer a political force in the UK. He had to resign from leading his party and was replaced by someone so impressive that I can't even remember his name... :laugh:

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            Cameron just announced he's sticking around for three months. Assuming there is a desire to shorten Cameron's stay, what are the parliamentary procedure to force an election? 1) Can a motion of no-confidence simply be presented by either side? 2) Can the queen dissolve parliament without being asked to do so by the Prime Minister? 3) I believe the queen could simply appoint a new Prime Minister, but is this still the case? (And would she dare?)

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            Any of those can be done, but the last are a bit drastic.

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              Cameron just announced he's sticking around for three months. Assuming there is a desire to shorten Cameron's stay, what are the parliamentary procedure to force an election? 1) Can a motion of no-confidence simply be presented by either side? 2) Can the queen dissolve parliament without being asked to do so by the Prime Minister? 3) I believe the queen could simply appoint a new Prime Minister, but is this still the case? (And would she dare?)

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              Yes to all 3. But remember that the "Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011" exists.

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                1. Yes. 2) Only if given sufficient strong Hydrofluoric acid... 3) Even if she could, she wouldn't: she stays out of politics (and I can't say I blame her at all)

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                [The Queen] stays out of politics

                Naturally; as would any person of good sense and breeding.

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                  Cameron just announced he's sticking around for three months. Assuming there is a desire to shorten Cameron's stay, what are the parliamentary procedure to force an election? 1) Can a motion of no-confidence simply be presented by either side? 2) Can the queen dissolve parliament without being asked to do so by the Prime Minister? 3) I believe the queen could simply appoint a new Prime Minister, but is this still the case? (And would she dare?)

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                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                  1. I believe the queen could simply appoint a new Prime Minister, but is this still the case? (And would she dare?)

                  If she decides she wants to, I know this guy named Dave...

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                    It's not a coalition - it's been a majority government since 2015: Election 2015 - BBC News[^] Clegg? Clegg....clegg...Oh! The Tea Boy! He didn't even retain his seat in parliament at the last general election, and his party lost 49 seats out of their 57 and is pretty much no longer a political force in the UK. He had to resign from leading his party and was replaced by someone so impressive that I can't even remember his name... :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    I lost touch while waiting on the docks for the next mail boat to arrive with news from the old country.

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