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    Since I sort of left the coding/computer industry for a period of about 14 years (and when I was in it before, I was a teenager), I don't remember so many of these "fad things" going on. I assume now more than back then, there has been a large increase in the number of users who regularly use computer programs thanks to the smartphone and tablets. But I'm noticing these rather annoying fads and trends, which make me as a new, ADULT coder now, cringe. Hard to explain, and I think this is more of a designer/marketing thing than anything else... But we all probably know what a startup website looks like. They all follow the same pattern of having a big huge flashy landing page with a call to action, and then it sorta goes downhill from there... That is, if it ever started at the top of the hill to begin with. This "style" of site can be seen hereOur Work - Mopro[^] . This is only one company's examples, but they illustrate the general idea of what type of site Im talking about if you aren't familiar. The other thing I see a lot of are these trying-to-be-clean-and-simple-but-use-buzzwords types of approaches... I keep seeing startups like insert-your-verb-here+ify and videos like MongoDB's intro videoWhat is MongoDB? | MongoDB - YouTube[^] which quite frankly, are beginning to turn even me, as a 27 year old, off. Why do these people think they need to talk like this? Do they think we're idiots? Why is everyone trying to be "simple?" Why is thought being discouraged so much and there is this huge emphasis on "just using something" rather than understanding it? Don't get me wrong, I understand not everyone is a techie, but the thing that separates us humans from animals is indeed the mind, so if anything, we should be exercising it, not reducing it. Is it because the younger generations are lazy or conditioned to dislike education? I can't stand this ideology. Has anyone else noticed this trend or have any viewpoints on this? To be honest, I feel like Apple started this shit as a marketing scheme (smart) to sell their products to the dumbasses around the world (harsh, I know... Dont take it too seriously :P) and now everyone's trying to copy them and jump on this "sleek, simple, it just works" bandwagon... And they think they're being orig

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      Since I sort of left the coding/computer industry for a period of about 14 years (and when I was in it before, I was a teenager), I don't remember so many of these "fad things" going on. I assume now more than back then, there has been a large increase in the number of users who regularly use computer programs thanks to the smartphone and tablets. But I'm noticing these rather annoying fads and trends, which make me as a new, ADULT coder now, cringe. Hard to explain, and I think this is more of a designer/marketing thing than anything else... But we all probably know what a startup website looks like. They all follow the same pattern of having a big huge flashy landing page with a call to action, and then it sorta goes downhill from there... That is, if it ever started at the top of the hill to begin with. This "style" of site can be seen hereOur Work - Mopro[^] . This is only one company's examples, but they illustrate the general idea of what type of site Im talking about if you aren't familiar. The other thing I see a lot of are these trying-to-be-clean-and-simple-but-use-buzzwords types of approaches... I keep seeing startups like insert-your-verb-here+ify and videos like MongoDB's intro videoWhat is MongoDB? | MongoDB - YouTube[^] which quite frankly, are beginning to turn even me, as a 27 year old, off. Why do these people think they need to talk like this? Do they think we're idiots? Why is everyone trying to be "simple?" Why is thought being discouraged so much and there is this huge emphasis on "just using something" rather than understanding it? Don't get me wrong, I understand not everyone is a techie, but the thing that separates us humans from animals is indeed the mind, so if anything, we should be exercising it, not reducing it. Is it because the younger generations are lazy or conditioned to dislike education? I can't stand this ideology. Has anyone else noticed this trend or have any viewpoints on this? To be honest, I feel like Apple started this shit as a marketing scheme (smart) to sell their products to the dumbasses around the world (harsh, I know... Dont take it too seriously :P) and now everyone's trying to copy them and jump on this "sleek, simple, it just works" bandwagon... And they think they're being orig

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      Many web sites including the provided example are generated by various content management systems with predefined templates. That is why they look similar.

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        Since I sort of left the coding/computer industry for a period of about 14 years (and when I was in it before, I was a teenager), I don't remember so many of these "fad things" going on. I assume now more than back then, there has been a large increase in the number of users who regularly use computer programs thanks to the smartphone and tablets. But I'm noticing these rather annoying fads and trends, which make me as a new, ADULT coder now, cringe. Hard to explain, and I think this is more of a designer/marketing thing than anything else... But we all probably know what a startup website looks like. They all follow the same pattern of having a big huge flashy landing page with a call to action, and then it sorta goes downhill from there... That is, if it ever started at the top of the hill to begin with. This "style" of site can be seen hereOur Work - Mopro[^] . This is only one company's examples, but they illustrate the general idea of what type of site Im talking about if you aren't familiar. The other thing I see a lot of are these trying-to-be-clean-and-simple-but-use-buzzwords types of approaches... I keep seeing startups like insert-your-verb-here+ify and videos like MongoDB's intro videoWhat is MongoDB? | MongoDB - YouTube[^] which quite frankly, are beginning to turn even me, as a 27 year old, off. Why do these people think they need to talk like this? Do they think we're idiots? Why is everyone trying to be "simple?" Why is thought being discouraged so much and there is this huge emphasis on "just using something" rather than understanding it? Don't get me wrong, I understand not everyone is a techie, but the thing that separates us humans from animals is indeed the mind, so if anything, we should be exercising it, not reducing it. Is it because the younger generations are lazy or conditioned to dislike education? I can't stand this ideology. Has anyone else noticed this trend or have any viewpoints on this? To be honest, I feel like Apple started this shit as a marketing scheme (smart) to sell their products to the dumbasses around the world (harsh, I know... Dont take it too seriously :P) and now everyone's trying to copy them and jump on this "sleek, simple, it just works" bandwagon... And they think they're being orig

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        I have the same feeling. "simple" in these days seems to mean not "concise" but "dumb down", "simple minded", "opioninated", etc. It's the information providers who think about and filter/choose information for the clients rather than provide full information to the clients and (construct tools to) help the clients to think clearer, to have their own opion, and make their own choices. I think these "simplifications" are overdone, although it is quite "successful" in gaining the market. The kind of websites styling may attract a child or young people, but I am not young anymore ...

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          I have the same feeling. "simple" in these days seems to mean not "concise" but "dumb down", "simple minded", "opioninated", etc. It's the information providers who think about and filter/choose information for the clients rather than provide full information to the clients and (construct tools to) help the clients to think clearer, to have their own opion, and make their own choices. I think these "simplifications" are overdone, although it is quite "successful" in gaining the market. The kind of websites styling may attract a child or young people, but I am not young anymore ...

          Find more in 1-NET: connects your resources anywhere[^]. Email searcher Email Aggregation Manager[^].

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          Oh God, since I wrote this post, I just ran into another one: "Teachable" I swear to God, if I hear one more "able" "ify" "ly" startup name... Do these people seriously think that name is catchy or unique at all? Get outta here!

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            Oh God, since I wrote this post, I just ran into another one: "Teachable" I swear to God, if I hear one more "able" "ify" "ly" startup name... Do these people seriously think that name is catchy or unique at all? Get outta here!

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            TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

            I just ran into another one

            Here Comes Another Bubble[^]

            GeoGame for Windows Phone | The Lounge Explained In 5 Minutes

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              TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

              I just ran into another one

              Here Comes Another Bubble[^]

              GeoGame for Windows Phone | The Lounge Explained In 5 Minutes

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              Omg, I almost cried!! :laugh:

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                Since I sort of left the coding/computer industry for a period of about 14 years (and when I was in it before, I was a teenager), I don't remember so many of these "fad things" going on. I assume now more than back then, there has been a large increase in the number of users who regularly use computer programs thanks to the smartphone and tablets. But I'm noticing these rather annoying fads and trends, which make me as a new, ADULT coder now, cringe. Hard to explain, and I think this is more of a designer/marketing thing than anything else... But we all probably know what a startup website looks like. They all follow the same pattern of having a big huge flashy landing page with a call to action, and then it sorta goes downhill from there... That is, if it ever started at the top of the hill to begin with. This "style" of site can be seen hereOur Work - Mopro[^] . This is only one company's examples, but they illustrate the general idea of what type of site Im talking about if you aren't familiar. The other thing I see a lot of are these trying-to-be-clean-and-simple-but-use-buzzwords types of approaches... I keep seeing startups like insert-your-verb-here+ify and videos like MongoDB's intro videoWhat is MongoDB? | MongoDB - YouTube[^] which quite frankly, are beginning to turn even me, as a 27 year old, off. Why do these people think they need to talk like this? Do they think we're idiots? Why is everyone trying to be "simple?" Why is thought being discouraged so much and there is this huge emphasis on "just using something" rather than understanding it? Don't get me wrong, I understand not everyone is a techie, but the thing that separates us humans from animals is indeed the mind, so if anything, we should be exercising it, not reducing it. Is it because the younger generations are lazy or conditioned to dislike education? I can't stand this ideology. Has anyone else noticed this trend or have any viewpoints on this? To be honest, I feel like Apple started this shit as a marketing scheme (smart) to sell their products to the dumbasses around the world (harsh, I know... Dont take it too seriously :P) and now everyone's trying to copy them and jump on this "sleek, simple, it just works" bandwagon... And they think they're being orig

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                Yes, I have noticed such things, about since the arrival of the C64.

                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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                  Since I sort of left the coding/computer industry for a period of about 14 years (and when I was in it before, I was a teenager), I don't remember so many of these "fad things" going on. I assume now more than back then, there has been a large increase in the number of users who regularly use computer programs thanks to the smartphone and tablets. But I'm noticing these rather annoying fads and trends, which make me as a new, ADULT coder now, cringe. Hard to explain, and I think this is more of a designer/marketing thing than anything else... But we all probably know what a startup website looks like. They all follow the same pattern of having a big huge flashy landing page with a call to action, and then it sorta goes downhill from there... That is, if it ever started at the top of the hill to begin with. This "style" of site can be seen hereOur Work - Mopro[^] . This is only one company's examples, but they illustrate the general idea of what type of site Im talking about if you aren't familiar. The other thing I see a lot of are these trying-to-be-clean-and-simple-but-use-buzzwords types of approaches... I keep seeing startups like insert-your-verb-here+ify and videos like MongoDB's intro videoWhat is MongoDB? | MongoDB - YouTube[^] which quite frankly, are beginning to turn even me, as a 27 year old, off. Why do these people think they need to talk like this? Do they think we're idiots? Why is everyone trying to be "simple?" Why is thought being discouraged so much and there is this huge emphasis on "just using something" rather than understanding it? Don't get me wrong, I understand not everyone is a techie, but the thing that separates us humans from animals is indeed the mind, so if anything, we should be exercising it, not reducing it. Is it because the younger generations are lazy or conditioned to dislike education? I can't stand this ideology. Has anyone else noticed this trend or have any viewpoints on this? To be honest, I feel like Apple started this shit as a marketing scheme (smart) to sell their products to the dumbasses around the world (harsh, I know... Dont take it too seriously :P) and now everyone's trying to copy them and jump on this "sleek, simple, it just works" bandwagon... And they think they're being orig

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                  You would love this[^] forum.

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                    Since I sort of left the coding/computer industry for a period of about 14 years (and when I was in it before, I was a teenager), I don't remember so many of these "fad things" going on. I assume now more than back then, there has been a large increase in the number of users who regularly use computer programs thanks to the smartphone and tablets. But I'm noticing these rather annoying fads and trends, which make me as a new, ADULT coder now, cringe. Hard to explain, and I think this is more of a designer/marketing thing than anything else... But we all probably know what a startup website looks like. They all follow the same pattern of having a big huge flashy landing page with a call to action, and then it sorta goes downhill from there... That is, if it ever started at the top of the hill to begin with. This "style" of site can be seen hereOur Work - Mopro[^] . This is only one company's examples, but they illustrate the general idea of what type of site Im talking about if you aren't familiar. The other thing I see a lot of are these trying-to-be-clean-and-simple-but-use-buzzwords types of approaches... I keep seeing startups like insert-your-verb-here+ify and videos like MongoDB's intro videoWhat is MongoDB? | MongoDB - YouTube[^] which quite frankly, are beginning to turn even me, as a 27 year old, off. Why do these people think they need to talk like this? Do they think we're idiots? Why is everyone trying to be "simple?" Why is thought being discouraged so much and there is this huge emphasis on "just using something" rather than understanding it? Don't get me wrong, I understand not everyone is a techie, but the thing that separates us humans from animals is indeed the mind, so if anything, we should be exercising it, not reducing it. Is it because the younger generations are lazy or conditioned to dislike education? I can't stand this ideology. Has anyone else noticed this trend or have any viewpoints on this? To be honest, I feel like Apple started this shit as a marketing scheme (smart) to sell their products to the dumbasses around the world (harsh, I know... Dont take it too seriously :P) and now everyone's trying to copy them and jump on this "sleek, simple, it just works" bandwagon... And they think they're being orig

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                    TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

                    sleek, simple, it just works"

                    If only...

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                      TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

                      I just ran into another one

                      Here Comes Another Bubble[^]

                      GeoGame for Windows Phone | The Lounge Explained In 5 Minutes

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                      Excellent

                      Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                        Omg, I almost cried!! :laugh:

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                        The same thing happens in TV advertising, at least here in the UK. Almost every product these days is "voted product of the year" (by whom one asks, but see Dave Gorman[^]'s take), "5-star rated" (by whom again), or (some variation of) "designed for you". Just meaningless drivel.

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                          I have the same feeling. "simple" in these days seems to mean not "concise" but "dumb down", "simple minded", "opioninated", etc. It's the information providers who think about and filter/choose information for the clients rather than provide full information to the clients and (construct tools to) help the clients to think clearer, to have their own opion, and make their own choices. I think these "simplifications" are overdone, although it is quite "successful" in gaining the market. The kind of websites styling may attract a child or young people, but I am not young anymore ...

                          Find more in 1-NET: connects your resources anywhere[^]. Email searcher Email Aggregation Manager[^].

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                          AMAZINGhttp://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/[^]

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