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  • B Bilal Naveed

    Just curious: Do you people even get Al-jazeera where you live? If not then isn't your source of information just one perspective into the war? What about the human casualties - the "collateral damage"? Are there any other channels covering Iraq's perspective? And how do you know what the unofficial line is? Which sites (if any) do you visit to supplement what you get from CNN, BBC, Fox, MSNBC etc.?

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    DODO
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    هتسمع كلام غريب الاعلام الصهيوني عامل لهم غسيل مخ La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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      هتسمع كلام غريب الاعلام الصهيوني عامل لهم غسيل مخ La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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      Agree ;)

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        Agree ;)

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        DODO
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        :-D at last حاولت اشرح كتير لكن مفيش فايده قلت ده الجهاد اللي نقدر عليه:rose: La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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        • B Bilal Naveed

          Just curious: Do you people even get Al-jazeera where you live? If not then isn't your source of information just one perspective into the war? What about the human casualties - the "collateral damage"? Are there any other channels covering Iraq's perspective? And how do you know what the unofficial line is? Which sites (if any) do you visit to supplement what you get from CNN, BBC, Fox, MSNBC etc.?

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          Felix Gartsman
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          Al-jazeera standards are below recognition. Iraqi state TV is more objective. Other arab channels deal with the war much better. Bilal Naveed wrote: And how do you know what the unofficial line is? Al-jazeera doesn't present it.

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            Al-jazeera standards are below recognition. Iraqi state TV is more objective. Other arab channels deal with the war much better. Bilal Naveed wrote: And how do you know what the unofficial line is? Al-jazeera doesn't present it.

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            DODO
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            Regarding our previos thread regarding Israeli people ,I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?,does this include living in peace,why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does,I dont hate you because you are an Israeli,I hate what your country reprsents,its aims ,its objectives,if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us because you belive in god and all his prophets ,we are cousins ,and of course you know that you government leads american government and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people,what do you expect from a person who lost his home,job,family by your people the only thing he can give now to defend them selves is their lives ,hope they are all in heaven,of course we can live in peace but in one case if palastineans are controlling their land once again ,and this will happen it is written in the quran ,and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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              Regarding our previos thread regarding Israeli people ,I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?,does this include living in peace,why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does,I dont hate you because you are an Israeli,I hate what your country reprsents,its aims ,its objectives,if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us because you belive in god and all his prophets ,we are cousins ,and of course you know that you government leads american government and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people,what do you expect from a person who lost his home,job,family by your people the only thing he can give now to defend them selves is their lives ,hope they are all in heaven,of course we can live in peace but in one case if palastineans are controlling their land once again ,and this will happen it is written in the quran ,and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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              Felix Gartsman
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              Samer12 wrote: I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?, To deter terror and minimize civilian casulties. As for "threw them out of their land", please remember who started the wars when the land was taken. You can't start a war, lose it and complain about the results. Palestinians will receive portions of the land (4 july '67 +-) when recognize it will be with the jews, not instead. Samer12 wrote: why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does Of course it happens. But not in void, those "young men" kill (or try to) jews. If you don't defend yourself, you've no honor (honor is important not only to arabs). Samer12 wrote: if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. Samer12 wrote: and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today. Samer12 wrote: and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry.

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                Samer12 wrote: I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?, To deter terror and minimize civilian casulties. As for "threw them out of their land", please remember who started the wars when the land was taken. You can't start a war, lose it and complain about the results. Palestinians will receive portions of the land (4 july '67 +-) when recognize it will be with the jews, not instead. Samer12 wrote: why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does Of course it happens. But not in void, those "young men" kill (or try to) jews. If you don't defend yourself, you've no honor (honor is important not only to arabs). Samer12 wrote: if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. Samer12 wrote: and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today. Samer12 wrote: and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry.

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                What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. No this is not the real one this is the zionist version ,dont you know your peopls history at all even Moses you betrayed ,you cannt stand to be honest and do the truth,and about the nile don't even dream of Egypt man,you once tried or they did not tell you about 67 then 73 If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today this the true Israeli feeling not ours I want you to stop playing dead and show the whole world your real and true feelings,stop the peace lie and tell the truth of what you realy want,I tried talking to you fairly but you did not give me the chance No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry. I feel so bad for you,this sin you are talking about will be shown by mighty god him self he will show the truth to you and to us but sadly you will not be happy about it La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                  Samer12 wrote: I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?, To deter terror and minimize civilian casulties. As for "threw them out of their land", please remember who started the wars when the land was taken. You can't start a war, lose it and complain about the results. Palestinians will receive portions of the land (4 july '67 +-) when recognize it will be with the jews, not instead. Samer12 wrote: why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does Of course it happens. But not in void, those "young men" kill (or try to) jews. If you don't defend yourself, you've no honor (honor is important not only to arabs). Samer12 wrote: if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. Samer12 wrote: and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today. Samer12 wrote: and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry.

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                  If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today. forgot something If we are killed we will go to heaven In sha allah we hope to die defending palastine and Islam to be Shohadaa thats dying for god's sake so it is the most wellcomed thing to us La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                    What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. No this is not the real one this is the zionist version ,dont you know your peopls history at all even Moses you betrayed ,you cannt stand to be honest and do the truth,and about the nile don't even dream of Egypt man,you once tried or they did not tell you about 67 then 73 If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today this the true Israeli feeling not ours I want you to stop playing dead and show the whole world your real and true feelings,stop the peace lie and tell the truth of what you realy want,I tried talking to you fairly but you did not give me the chance No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry. I feel so bad for you,this sin you are talking about will be shown by mighty god him self he will show the truth to you and to us but sadly you will not be happy about it La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                    Felix Gartsman
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                    Samer12 wrote: What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. No this is not the real one this is the zionist version I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... Samer12 wrote: and about the nile don't even dream of Egypt man,you once tried And succeeded. Samer12 wrote: I tried talking to you fairly but you did not give me the chance I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports.

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                      Samer12 wrote: What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. No this is not the real one this is the zionist version I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... Samer12 wrote: and about the nile don't even dream of Egypt man,you once tried And succeeded. Samer12 wrote: I tried talking to you fairly but you did not give me the chance I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports.

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                      And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man?,you can only sneak from the back,even now you only sneak at night to kill palastinean children and women in their houses,you killed famous Egyptian scientist just because they are brillient I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... I did not know you live for 2000 years,it is not thevreal taorah I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports. stop it man I know you much better ,so spare the lies try it with western people who does not speak arabic and dont know what aljazeera realy says and listen carfully unlike you we take religious matters very seriously and our belives and religions does not come from any reports it is from god and sorry if my views doesnt match zionist CNN and FOX who are owned by zionists jews or controlled La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                        And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man?,you can only sneak from the back,even now you only sneak at night to kill palastinean children and women in their houses,you killed famous Egyptian scientist just because they are brillient I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... I did not know you live for 2000 years,it is not thevreal taorah I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports. stop it man I know you much better ,so spare the lies try it with western people who does not speak arabic and dont know what aljazeera realy says and listen carfully unlike you we take religious matters very seriously and our belives and religions does not come from any reports it is from god and sorry if my views doesnt match zionist CNN and FOX who are owned by zionists jews or controlled La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                        Felix Gartsman
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                        Samer12 wrote: And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man? What you consider victory? Please read beyound egypt version: http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/MiddleEast/YomKippurWar.html[^]http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War[^]http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_ykwar_course.php[^]

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                          Samer12 wrote: And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man? What you consider victory? Please read beyound egypt version: http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/MiddleEast/YomKippurWar.html[^]http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War[^]http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_ykwar_course.php[^]

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                          DODO
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                          What you consider victory? Please read beyound egypt version I still consider it victory or else you will be having vacations in Sharm Elshiek please read beyound the zionist version La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                            What you consider victory? Please read beyound egypt version I still consider it victory or else you will be having vacations in Sharm Elshiek please read beyound the zionist version La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                            Felix Gartsman
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                            Samer12 wrote: I still consider it victory or else you will be having vacations in Sharm Elshiek Excellent example. Egypt lost the war, but achieved its goal by a peace treaty! It is the better way to achieve goals. As for vacation, I prefer Eilat (Umm al Rashrash). Samer12 wrote: please read beyound the zionist version I did. I even read the Russian version, or they're zionists too?

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                              Samer12 wrote: I still consider it victory or else you will be having vacations in Sharm Elshiek Excellent example. Egypt lost the war, but achieved its goal by a peace treaty! It is the better way to achieve goals. As for vacation, I prefer Eilat (Umm al Rashrash). Samer12 wrote: please read beyound the zionist version I did. I even read the Russian version, or they're zionists too?

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                              Egypt lost the war, but achieved its goal by a peace treaty yes of course and Israel is so good to admit that this land isn't hers and give it back although you have been helped by America even then you were it's baby I prefer Eilat (Umm al Rashrash). were Egyptian Soldiers destroyed a huge ship of yours or you dont know about that either I did. I even read the Russian version and did the russian version said you won the war La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                              • B Bilal Naveed

                                Just curious: Do you people even get Al-jazeera where you live? If not then isn't your source of information just one perspective into the war? What about the human casualties - the "collateral damage"? Are there any other channels covering Iraq's perspective? And how do you know what the unofficial line is? Which sites (if any) do you visit to supplement what you get from CNN, BBC, Fox, MSNBC etc.?

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                                Videotron, the Montreal-based cable company, has applied to the CRTC to have al-Jazeera, the controversial Arab news channel, added to the list of international signals available in Canada. "Yes, we have applied to get that (channel)," confirms Lise Gagne, a Videotron spokeswoman. "It's really in the hands of the CRTC.(Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission)" Vidéotron applies to carry al-Jazeera[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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                                  And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man?,you can only sneak from the back,even now you only sneak at night to kill palastinean children and women in their houses,you killed famous Egyptian scientist just because they are brillient I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... I did not know you live for 2000 years,it is not thevreal taorah I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports. stop it man I know you much better ,so spare the lies try it with western people who does not speak arabic and dont know what aljazeera realy says and listen carfully unlike you we take religious matters very seriously and our belives and religions does not come from any reports it is from god and sorry if my views doesnt match zionist CNN and FOX who are owned by zionists jews or controlled La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                  This is exactly why i distrust you and your religion.

                                  Jason Henderson
                                  "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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                                    This is exactly why i distrust you and your religion.

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    What is sick is that this guy thinks that he will go to heaven if he is killed. I don't know whether he is trying to purposefully cause flames or he believes all the crap he says. If they go to heaven than why are they so sad about the civilians killed in the war? They will go to heaven and enjoy 72 (number correct?) virgins. If some programmer says that stuff I am not sure what the future has in store for Arab world.


                                    forgot something If we are killed we will go to heaven In sha allah - Samer12 (Soapbox)

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                                      This is exactly why i distrust you and your religion.

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                                      DODO
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                                      Sorry ,Did not get you point and your religion sorry for your loss,what makes my religion more powerfull is that we do belive in all other religions but you dont ,does this ring any bells to you? why do I belive in christianity and in jeasus and you dont belive in Islam we have a whole Sorah in Quran Called "Mariam" and I belive in "Mariam "too,so I think this is much more objective then not beliving or you think other wise? any way this forum is by the word antiarab and antimuslim,every one tells me the I talk with hatred will I dont,I have been faced with so much anger and bad words for just trying to tell you the other point of view that you must know to think in an objective way ,may be it is my eglish,may be it is my origion that I am most prowed of,and about the heaven post,yes we know that who ever gets killed defending his religion,money,family,and himself will go to heaven that does not mean we kill our selves to go to heaven any way hope I am a bit clear and sorry I did not find something in english to send you but I am telling you do not belive the media not Cnn not aljazeera hear the story from its people La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                        What is sick is that this guy thinks that he will go to heaven if he is killed. I don't know whether he is trying to purposefully cause flames or he believes all the crap he says. If they go to heaven than why are they so sad about the civilians killed in the war? They will go to heaven and enjoy 72 (number correct?) virgins. If some programmer says that stuff I am not sure what the future has in store for Arab world.


                                        forgot something If we are killed we will go to heaven In sha allah - Samer12 (Soapbox)

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                                        DODO
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                                        I don't know whether he is trying to purposefully cause flames or he believes all the crap he says I am not trying to do something ,and want to hear some of the "Crap" you belive in, Krishna,is an indian god isn't it? They will go to heaven and enjoy 72 (number correct?) virgins number is not correct and totaly wrong idea If they go to heaven than why are they so sad about the civilians killed in the war? No comment,they are not dogs they are human beings with families that are sad to lose them,but they are all in heaven in shaa allah and from your post I can guess your background about Islam,please ask before you judge La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                          I don't know whether he is trying to purposefully cause flames or he believes all the crap he says I am not trying to do something ,and want to hear some of the "Crap" you belive in, Krishna,is an indian god isn't it? They will go to heaven and enjoy 72 (number correct?) virgins number is not correct and totaly wrong idea If they go to heaven than why are they so sad about the civilians killed in the war? No comment,they are not dogs they are human beings with families that are sad to lose them,but they are all in heaven in shaa allah and from your post I can guess your background about Islam,please ask before you judge La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                          Samer12 wrote: I can guess your background about Islam,please ask before you judge There are other muslims in CP who talk very logically - Imran Farooqi, Fazlur Kabir etc. I would consid them to be a good source of what Islam is than you.

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