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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Step 1: Don't let the whole world know you're a "real man"(?) because you eat meat and somehow that's supposed to make you really awesome and manly. Step 2: Eat whatever the hell you like and don't bother other people with it. This "I eat meat" stuff was pretty funny at first, but it's getting really old. Like you never eat a salad or really could not eat anything other than meat. I've been a vegetarian for almost 2/3rds of my life, but you don't see me posting about salads and being a rabbit X| To the people that hate on vegetarians because "they always tell you they're vegetarian": it's because if we don't tell you you'll give us meat and we don't eat that so things will get really awkward... And we won't have food. Sorry man, nothing personal. You just posted the wrong thing at the wrong time (the time I read such a post for the 1000th time) :laugh:

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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    it's because if we don't tell you you'll give us meat and we don't eat that so things will get really awkward... And we won't have food.

    With all respect to you Sander, whose fault is that? I was brought up with a mom that told me: "Eat what is on the table or you won't get any food" and "I've been standing around for so and so long making dinner for you, you'd better eat it or stop wasting my time and make your own food"! If you have a medical affliction that makes you incapable of eating certain food, fine! But if you just don't WANT to eat what is served, by all means go hungry as far as I am concerned! There's too much egocentrism around today, too much "I do what I want! It's MY right, and you should all respect that". But tell other people what they should put on their table, sure, THAT they can do! Everybody should respect THEM, but they don't have to respect other people! Sorry, but it really pisses me off! People are welcome to do what they like in their own home, I don't care, but they shouldn't force it on the rest of us... This is nothing personal Sander, just a rant against a general attitude! Sorry [ADDENDA] If I get served something I don't like, I'll just eat as little of it as possible and eat more of what I DO like. I never, ever expect people to make special food for me - I would rather go hungry than put people out [/ADDENDA]

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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      it's because if we don't tell you you'll give us meat and we don't eat that so things will get really awkward... And we won't have food.

      With all respect to you Sander, whose fault is that? I was brought up with a mom that told me: "Eat what is on the table or you won't get any food" and "I've been standing around for so and so long making dinner for you, you'd better eat it or stop wasting my time and make your own food"! If you have a medical affliction that makes you incapable of eating certain food, fine! But if you just don't WANT to eat what is served, by all means go hungry as far as I am concerned! There's too much egocentrism around today, too much "I do what I want! It's MY right, and you should all respect that". But tell other people what they should put on their table, sure, THAT they can do! Everybody should respect THEM, but they don't have to respect other people! Sorry, but it really pisses me off! People are welcome to do what they like in their own home, I don't care, but they shouldn't force it on the rest of us... This is nothing personal Sander, just a rant against a general attitude! Sorry [ADDENDA] If I get served something I don't like, I'll just eat as little of it as possible and eat more of what I DO like. I never, ever expect people to make special food for me - I would rather go hungry than put people out [/ADDENDA]

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      Sander Rossel
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      I'm not telling you what you should or should not eat, but if you invite me to your home to have dinner I'm going to tell you I'm a vegetarian. A good host would take my diet into account and would probably even ask if there's anything I don't eat (I also don't like corn and peas). If you still serve me meat you're not a good host, we'll have an awkward dinner and I'll happily reject your invitation next time. Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian (and most meat eaters are fine with it, none of my friends eats meat every day anyway), but some people really enjoy their meat (my dad and grandpa, for example). If you want your meat I'll get you your meat. It's not really an attitude, just taking each other's wishes into account.

      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        I'm not telling you what you should or should not eat, but if you invite me to your home to have dinner I'm going to tell you I'm a vegetarian. A good host would take my diet into account and would probably even ask if there's anything I don't eat (I also don't like corn and peas). If you still serve me meat you're not a good host, we'll have an awkward dinner and I'll happily reject your invitation next time. Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian (and most meat eaters are fine with it, none of my friends eats meat every day anyway), but some people really enjoy their meat (my dad and grandpa, for example). If you want your meat I'll get you your meat. It's not really an attitude, just taking each other's wishes into account.

        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim... An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more... The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people

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          So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim... An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more... The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people

          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
          Me, all the time

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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian [...] If you want your meat I'll get you your meat.

          Johnny J. wrote:

          So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve?

          How did you get that from my words? :confused: Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different? So I was saying we should all respect each other's wishes, meat, vegetarian, no peas, gluten-free, what have you, and a good host would do so.

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian [...] If you want your meat I'll get you your meat.

            Johnny J. wrote:

            So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve?

            How did you get that from my words? :confused: Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different? So I was saying we should all respect each other's wishes, meat, vegetarian, no peas, gluten-free, what have you, and a good host would do so.

            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            Sander Rossel wrote:

            Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different?

            Well, I guest it's not all that different, but I didn't say that you had to eat meat. If you read my Addenda to the first post I made, I would expect you to eat the parts of the menu you wanted to eat. I'm assuming that it is a mixed company with guests that eat meat and guests (you in this case) that don't. As mentioned, if I were going to a dinner party I wouldn't expect the host to cook any special food for me, and frankly as a host: If you have to take everybody's quirks into consideration, chances of being able to put together a menu at all are slim to none. Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)

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              Sander Rossel wrote:

              Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different?

              Well, I guest it's not all that different, but I didn't say that you had to eat meat. If you read my Addenda to the first post I made, I would expect you to eat the parts of the menu you wanted to eat. I'm assuming that it is a mixed company with guests that eat meat and guests (you in this case) that don't. As mentioned, if I were going to a dinner party I wouldn't expect the host to cook any special food for me, and frankly as a host: If you have to take everybody's quirks into consideration, chances of being able to put together a menu at all are slim to none. Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)

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              Johnny J. wrote:

              Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)

              I'll cancel the reservations ;p

              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Johnny J. wrote:

                Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)

                I'll cancel the reservations ;p

                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                :laugh:

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                • V Vincent Maverick Durano

                  How to prepare a tofu: Step1: Throw it in the trash Step2: Grill some real meat Done.

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                  It's like C. If you use tofu correctly, you can make some great dishes out of it. If not...it turns into an awful mess.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote:

                    From my point of view (and that one might differ from yours since I'm not a veggie and probably thus not as sensitive on that matter) connecting throwing tofu away to a veggie joke is not really obvious

                    Let's put it this way, most veggie jokes are about tofu, salads and eating meat ;) Maybe this one in particular wasn't meant to ridicule veggies (although why would you, out of nowhere, compare tofu to meat and declare meat the victor?). When people think veggie they think tofu and vice versa. I'm not offended in any way, but it does get tiring sometimes :)

                    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    it does get tiring sometimes

                    That's due to the lack of real meat proteins in your diet, perhaps? ;P

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                    • J Johnny J

                      So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim... An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more... The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people

                      Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                      Me, all the time

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                      Johnny J. wrote:

                      The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other

                      Truer words were never spoken. "You can be anything you want to be" can only result in a shipload of "I wanna be an @rsehole" responses.

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                      • K Kaladin

                        It's like C. If you use tofu correctly, you can make some great dishes out of it. If not...it turns into an awful mess.

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                        I'd say that:

                        goto the_fridge_and_get_something_else

                        Is both good C usage and good tofu usage.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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