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Sander Rossel wrote:
it's because if we don't tell you you'll give us meat and we don't eat that so things will get really awkward... And we won't have food.
With all respect to you Sander, whose fault is that? I was brought up with a mom that told me: "Eat what is on the table or you won't get any food" and "I've been standing around for so and so long making dinner for you, you'd better eat it or stop wasting my time and make your own food"! If you have a medical affliction that makes you incapable of eating certain food, fine! But if you just don't WANT to eat what is served, by all means go hungry as far as I am concerned! There's too much egocentrism around today, too much "I do what I want! It's MY right, and you should all respect that". But tell other people what they should put on their table, sure, THAT they can do! Everybody should respect THEM, but they don't have to respect other people! Sorry, but it really pisses me off! People are welcome to do what they like in their own home, I don't care, but they shouldn't force it on the rest of us... This is nothing personal Sander, just a rant against a general attitude! Sorry [ADDENDA] If I get served something I don't like, I'll just eat as little of it as possible and eat more of what I DO like. I never, ever expect people to make special food for me - I would rather go hungry than put people out [/ADDENDA]
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Me, all the timeI'm not telling you what you should or should not eat, but if you invite me to your home to have dinner I'm going to tell you I'm a vegetarian. A good host would take my diet into account and would probably even ask if there's anything I don't eat (I also don't like corn and peas). If you still serve me meat you're not a good host, we'll have an awkward dinner and I'll happily reject your invitation next time. Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian (and most meat eaters are fine with it, none of my friends eats meat every day anyway), but some people really enjoy their meat (my dad and grandpa, for example). If you want your meat I'll get you your meat. It's not really an attitude, just taking each other's wishes into account.
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Regards, Sander
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I'm not telling you what you should or should not eat, but if you invite me to your home to have dinner I'm going to tell you I'm a vegetarian. A good host would take my diet into account and would probably even ask if there's anything I don't eat (I also don't like corn and peas). If you still serve me meat you're not a good host, we'll have an awkward dinner and I'll happily reject your invitation next time. Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian (and most meat eaters are fine with it, none of my friends eats meat every day anyway), but some people really enjoy their meat (my dad and grandpa, for example). If you want your meat I'll get you your meat. It's not really an attitude, just taking each other's wishes into account.
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
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Regards, Sander
So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim... An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more... The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people
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So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim... An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more... The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Me, all the timeSander Rossel wrote:
Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian [...] If you want your meat I'll get you your meat.
Johnny J. wrote:
So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve?
How did you get that from my words? :confused: Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different? So I was saying we should all respect each other's wishes, meat, vegetarian, no peas, gluten-free, what have you, and a good host would do so.
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian [...] If you want your meat I'll get you your meat.
Johnny J. wrote:
So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve?
How did you get that from my words? :confused: Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different? So I was saying we should all respect each other's wishes, meat, vegetarian, no peas, gluten-free, what have you, and a good host would do so.
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
Sander Rossel wrote:
Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different?
Well, I guest it's not all that different, but I didn't say that you had to eat meat. If you read my Addenda to the first post I made, I would expect you to eat the parts of the menu you wanted to eat. I'm assuming that it is a mixed company with guests that eat meat and guests (you in this case) that don't. As mentioned, if I were going to a dinner party I wouldn't expect the host to cook any special food for me, and frankly as a host: If you have to take everybody's quirks into consideration, chances of being able to put together a menu at all are slim to none. Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different?
Well, I guest it's not all that different, but I didn't say that you had to eat meat. If you read my Addenda to the first post I made, I would expect you to eat the parts of the menu you wanted to eat. I'm assuming that it is a mixed company with guests that eat meat and guests (you in this case) that don't. As mentioned, if I were going to a dinner party I wouldn't expect the host to cook any special food for me, and frankly as a host: If you have to take everybody's quirks into consideration, chances of being able to put together a menu at all are slim to none. Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Me, all the timeJohnny J. wrote:
Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)
I'll cancel the reservations ;p
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Johnny J. wrote:
Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner? ;)
I'll cancel the reservations ;p
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
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Regards, Sander
:laugh:
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How to prepare a tofu: Step1: Throw it in the trash Step2: Grill some real meat Done.
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Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote:
From my point of view (and that one might differ from yours since I'm not a veggie and probably thus not as sensitive on that matter) connecting throwing tofu away to a veggie joke is not really obvious
Let's put it this way, most veggie jokes are about tofu, salads and eating meat ;) Maybe this one in particular wasn't meant to ridicule veggies (although why would you, out of nowhere, compare tofu to meat and declare meat the victor?). When people think veggie they think tofu and vice versa. I'm not offended in any way, but it does get tiring sometimes :)
Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.
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Regards, Sander
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So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim... An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more... The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people
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Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeJohnny J. wrote:
The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other
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It's like C. If you use tofu correctly, you can make some great dishes out of it. If not...it turns into an awful mess.
I'd say that:
goto the_fridge_and_get_something_else
Is both good C usage and good tofu usage.
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