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Lost User

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30046.html[^] No comment, make up your own mind :( The tigress is here :-D

peterchen

Bad: saw it coming that it was about a "Terrorist" charity WTF: If Saddam has links to al-Quaida, GTF sure must have, too! War: Good that, before the US kills all it's values, it tries to carry them to another country for safekeeping X|

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Jeremy Falcon

You do realize that if the world had (or really cared about) every little one of Germany's on-goings and nit-picked on it, I'm sure we'd all have plenty of details to bitch about. If CPians are supposed to be so damned smart then how come most of them can't see past bias, prejudices, local propaganda, etc. That's the real shame - nobody thinks. From way up high (leaders) to way down low (common folk), there are stupid people. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

Lost User

It reminded me of a name - McCarthy. Imprisoning someone for giving to a charity ? :~ The tigress is here :-D

Lost User

Trollslayer wrote: Imprisoning someone for giving to a charity What if the "charity" was actively supporting the Skin Heads or Arian Nation or the KKK? What about the IRA or Hamas or the PLO? Where do YOU draw the line? Remember, YOUR life may depend on your decision. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Chris Losinger

Jeremy Falcon wrote: If CPians are supposed to be so damned smart where is that written? Jeremy Falcon wrote: how come most of them can't see past bias, prejudices, local propaganda, etc. nobody can. humans are not even close to rational. assuming they are or should be will only leave you disappointed. -c "Facts all come with points of view". David Byrne

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Lost User

There is a little matter of law.... What law did he break ? The tigress is here :-D

JoeSox

Mike Mullikin wrote: What if the "charity" was actively supporting the Skin Heads or Arian Nation or the KKK? What about the IRA or Hamas or the PLO? Where do YOU draw the line? When a link to an organization has blown up and killed over 5,000 people, in buildings occupied by people from many different countries, and show no signs of stopping there plots? Later,
JoeSox
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Michael A Barnhart

Chris Losinger wrote: where is that written? It is implied by our very presence or at least Bob's. :rolleyes: ""

Michael A Barnhart

Mike Mullikin wrote: What if the "charity" was actively supporting the Skin Heads or Arian Nation or the KKK? What about the IRA or Hamas or the PLO? Where do YOU draw the line? Then it should be documented and the givers informed of it. How many charities do you contribute to that you really know where and why all the money goes? Now if a doner has a history of supporting those that do support terrorism that is a different issue. We just have to be careful not to let our real values get lost here. ""

Lost User

Trollslayer wrote: What law did he break ? I don't know. But then again, I'm not a cop or a lawyer. Mike Mullikin :beer:

"I'm not calling you a liar but....I can't think of a way to finish that sentence." - Bart Simpson

Lost User

Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Now if a doner has a history of supporting those that do support terrorism that is a different issue. True, and since the FBI has not arrested every person who donated to GRF maybe we can assume that Mr. Hawash was "special". Mike Mullikin :beer:

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peterchen

The only problem being that the link to al queida is one al-queida member *giving* to the charity. But this is a minor detail, I guess...

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peterchen

If this is bitching, you never heard me doing it :rolleyes: Umm... o my wise CPian, how do you determine the color of a rabbit, when one tells you "the rabbit is white", the other "the rabbit is black" and the thrid "there is no rabbit"?

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Chris Losinger

peterchen wrote: how do you determine the color of a rabbit put it in a cage. tell it it's white until it turns white. if it doesn't turn white, it is just being irrational. :cool: -c

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peterchen

Mike Mullikin wrote: we can assume that Mr. Hawash was "special". ..or selected wouldn't it be in the FBI's own interest to give something more reasonable than that?

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Jeremy Falcon

Chris Losinger wrote: where is that written? Touché Chris Losinger wrote: nobody can. humans are not even close to rational. assuming they are or should be will only leave you disappointed. Yup, not to say I haven't been guilty of it in the past (well, maybe present to), but I don't attribute my distaste of it to some sorta self-hate, psychological explanation. But rather, I've seen more people here of late - who I considered smart in their fields - speak with such loose thought. I know emotion clouds all logic, and in the end everyone is looking out for their own and/or someone they care about best interest. And, generally people can't see "outside the box." etc. and so forth... I mean in the end we're all human; it's just a letdown to see some things happen. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

Chris Losinger

Jeremy Falcon wrote: self-hate where'd that come from?? -c

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Jeremy Falcon

<cheap_chinese_accent> Confucius say: It's no so much the content of what's being absorbed, but rather the where the content is being absorbed from. </cheap_chinese_accent> Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

Lost User

peterchen wrote: wouldn't it be in the FBI's own interest to give something more reasonable than that? Not if it may jeopardize current or future investigations. Let's say Mr. Hawash made a few critical errors in hiding his connection with terrorism. Doesn't it make sense to not release those errors publicly until you've had time to see if anyone else made the same errors? If you want to try to make sense of police actions - you must think like them. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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