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    Forogar
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    This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      I do not have Win 10, and do not want Win 10, but there is one and only one reason why I will (eventually) upgrade to Win 10: As a life-long gamer, the day will come when I will want DirectX 12. edited to add: Unless Vulkan significantly increases its capabilities in the short-term.

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        This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        It'll be supported long after Microsoft has abandoned 7. </thread> (seriously, that's about the only thing I can come up with right now)

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          This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          For me W10 has nothing to offer, but a lot that I'm not the least bit interested in. I really have enough of Mickeysoft and my next OS will probably some Linux distribution.

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          • F Forogar

            This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Because if you don't embrace change you'll end up like the COBOL programmers of today. I used to work with a COBOL programmer who couldn't get a job at times, so he delivered pizza. All because he failed to embrace change. You wanna be like the guys still stuck on XP? Sure, don't always change just because... I get that. But don't be so afraid of it you never do. And I say this as a person who can't stand the way Win 10 handles updates, seems every new thing MS implements it does so poorly until a few versions go by. So I'm not biased for Win 10, but living on Win 7 for the rest of your life isn't a solution either.

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              Because if you don't embrace change you'll end up like the COBOL programmers of today. I used to work with a COBOL programmer who couldn't get a job at times, so he delivered pizza. All because he failed to embrace change. You wanna be like the guys still stuck on XP? Sure, don't always change just because... I get that. But don't be so afraid of it you never do. And I say this as a person who can't stand the way Win 10 handles updates, seems every new thing MS implements it does so poorly until a few versions go by. So I'm not biased for Win 10, but living on Win 7 for the rest of your life isn't a solution either.

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              :thumbsup:

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                Because if you don't embrace change you'll end up like the COBOL programmers of today. I used to work with a COBOL programmer who couldn't get a job at times, so he delivered pizza. All because he failed to embrace change. You wanna be like the guys still stuck on XP? Sure, don't always change just because... I get that. But don't be so afraid of it you never do. And I say this as a person who can't stand the way Win 10 handles updates, seems every new thing MS implements it does so poorly until a few versions go by. So I'm not biased for Win 10, but living on Win 7 for the rest of your life isn't a solution either.

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                Forogar
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                A perfectly valid view but not a reason to make life harder for myself with no actual reward for the effort by switching to Windows 10.

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  It'll be supported long after Microsoft has abandoned 7. </thread> (seriously, that's about the only thing I can come up with right now)

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                  Perhaps but they could just as easily keep supporting Windows 7, probably with a lot less effort. Obviously it is "newer" but that doesn't necessarily mean "better" - in this case it certainly doesn't!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    Because if you don't embrace change you'll end up like the COBOL programmers of today. I used to work with a COBOL programmer who couldn't get a job at times, so he delivered pizza. All because he failed to embrace change. You wanna be like the guys still stuck on XP? Sure, don't always change just because... I get that. But don't be so afraid of it you never do. And I say this as a person who can't stand the way Win 10 handles updates, seems every new thing MS implements it does so poorly until a few versions go by. So I'm not biased for Win 10, but living on Win 7 for the rest of your life isn't a solution either.

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                    Forogar
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                    ...and what's wrong with COBOL? There's still a heck of a lot of it around - and that's because it still works and is still doing it's job in all those millions of lines of production code that are still in production for a good reason - no need to change something for the sake of change especially when the existing code still works fine.

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    • F Forogar

                      This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      Simple. It works the same as Win7 (for me at least), will be around longer than Win7, and was free. Why not Windows10?

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        Simple. It works the same as Win7 (for me at least), will be around longer than Win7, and was free. Why not Windows10?

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        It works the same as Win7

                        Are you sure you aren't running a version of Windows 7 that a "friend" has fixed to say it is "Windows 10"?

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          I've got three machines now running 10 and it seems as good or better than 7. (which I thought was the pinnacle) Here are my reasons for upgrading: 0: Taskbar extends to all monitors 1: It has a working (and quite nice) weather app. I really liked the weather app gadget for 7, but sadly it just quit working...strangely enough, at different times on different machines. 2: Friends, family, and most importantly clients are now using it and expect me to know my way around it. 3: It was free on 2 out of the 3 computers I have it on. (one came with 10 home and was upgraded to pro, the other two were clean installs using Win7 keys. 4: After almost a year on 10, I can honestly say I like it better than 7...just my opinion.

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                            ...and what's wrong with COBOL? There's still a heck of a lot of it around - and that's because it still works and is still doing it's job in all those millions of lines of production code that are still in production for a good reason - no need to change something for the sake of change especially when the existing code still works fine.

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            He didn't say there was anything wrong with COBOL. He said there is something wrong with programmers that refuse to learn anything newer than COBOL. If all of that COBOL code is good to go and works just fine, then there is no reason for any COBOL-only developers to exist anymore.

                            The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                              This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              For me it was to test all functionality, as well as my development environment, before I endorse it to the higher-ups. IMHO, it is not ready, but it is close and eventually we'll need to move to a new OS.

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                                I've got three machines now running 10 and it seems as good or better than 7. (which I thought was the pinnacle) Here are my reasons for upgrading: 0: Taskbar extends to all monitors 1: It has a working (and quite nice) weather app. I really liked the weather app gadget for 7, but sadly it just quit working...strangely enough, at different times on different machines. 2: Friends, family, and most importantly clients are now using it and expect me to know my way around it. 3: It was free on 2 out of the 3 computers I have it on. (one came with 10 home and was upgraded to pro, the other two were clean installs using Win7 keys. 4: After almost a year on 10, I can honestly say I like it better than 7...just my opinion.

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                MarcusCole6833
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                                I code, use an office suite, read emails, surf the web and watch netflix and windows 10 is as fine as any!!

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                                  He didn't say there was anything wrong with COBOL. He said there is something wrong with programmers that refuse to learn anything newer than COBOL. If all of that COBOL code is good to go and works just fine, then there is no reason for any COBOL-only developers to exist anymore.

                                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                  :thumbsup:

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                                    A perfectly valid view but not a reason to make life harder for myself with no actual reward for the effort by switching to Windows 10.

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    I get what you're saying, life is a balance. I'd wager though that life doesn't always become easier by refusing to change. I think lack of change puts you behind the times and means you live in a world that no longer exists. That's not making life easier IMO. I get it though, C is still my favorite programming language. I was and still am slow to say .NET is better than sliced bread. And yet, I'm about to make a ASP.NET Core website for work.

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                                      It works the same as Win7

                                      Are you sure you aren't running a version of Windows 7 that a "friend" has fixed to say it is "Windows 10"?

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      Jeremy Falcon
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                                      There's always Linux... come on, you know you wanna. :-D

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                                        I've got three machines now running 10 and it seems as good or better than 7. (which I thought was the pinnacle) Here are my reasons for upgrading: 0: Taskbar extends to all monitors 1: It has a working (and quite nice) weather app. I really liked the weather app gadget for 7, but sadly it just quit working...strangely enough, at different times on different machines. 2: Friends, family, and most importantly clients are now using it and expect me to know my way around it. 3: It was free on 2 out of the 3 computers I have it on. (one came with 10 home and was upgraded to pro, the other two were clean installs using Win7 keys. 4: After almost a year on 10, I can honestly say I like it better than 7...just my opinion.

                                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                        After almost a year on 10, I can honestly say I like it better than 7

                                        It's nice to see I am not the only one who thinks like that! :)

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                                          This may be a little late but now that it has been out in the wild, rampaging around and causing untold damage and misery, why would anyone downgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7? (I can see why for Win8 to WinX, but not from Win7). I am looking for good, solid reasons; not just "it's better" or "it's better on tablets" or "it's got a cooler UI" - none of which are, in my opinion, even a little bit true. These need to be reasons that couldn't have been implemented with a quick update to Windows 7. Anyone? ...and don't give any of that bull about it being more stable, because it clearly is actually less stable! ...and I don't care that it starts up faster. I rarely have to restart Windows 7; it runs for months on my desktops and laptops (with no hibernation/wake-up problems, ever).

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Because I like it better. I can see you are going to deny whatever argument I put forward, so I will stop at that.

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