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    Munchies_Matt
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    Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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      Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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      megaadam
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      No I haven't noticed any change. I tried to Google: elephant sheep codeproject Works like a charm!

      ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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        Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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        Lost User
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        You are really surprised that Google (or any other company that does something in the internet) serves its own good and not yours?

        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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          No I haven't noticed any change. I tried to Google: elephant sheep codeproject Works like a charm!

          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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          OriginalGriff
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          Try: "elephant sheep site:codeproject.com" it works even better!

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            You are really surprised that Google (or any other company that does something in the internet) serves its own good and not yours?

            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Am I surprised I got a sarky and irrelevant reply from someone?

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              Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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              den2k88
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              I noticed it too. Then I was (and still am) forced to use Bing for 5 years... Not even the worst Google can match the best Bing in crappiness.

              DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                I noticed it too. Then I was (and still am) forced to use Bing for 5 years... Not even the worst Google can match the best Bing in crappiness.

                DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                Munchies_Matt
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                For me google has degraded to the point where even webcrawler is better.

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                  Am I surprised I got a sarky and irrelevant reply from someone?

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                  Lost User
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                  Welcome to the planet Earth. :-)

                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                    Am I surprised I got a sarky and irrelevant reply from someone?

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                    megaadam
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                    [xkcd: Duty Calls](https://xkcd.com/386/) :suss:

                    ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                      Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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                      On the contrary it is very rare for Google not to find me exactly what I search for.

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                        On the contrary it is very rare for Google not to find me exactly what I search for.

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        I'd have to agree - it works well for me (unlike Bing which couldn't find it's own ass with both hands and a map). In fact, it seems to get better each time I use it - possibly it's the heuristics on previous searches making results more relevant, I don't know. Perhaps the OP's problems are the things he searches for, rather than the results he gets... :laugh:

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          On the contrary it is very rare for Google not to find me exactly what I search for.

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          Well if you search for THAT, what do you expect! ;)

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                            I'd have to agree - it works well for me (unlike Bing which couldn't find it's own ass with both hands and a map). In fact, it seems to get better each time I use it - possibly it's the heuristics on previous searches making results more relevant, I don't know. Perhaps the OP's problems are the things he searches for, rather than the results he gets... :laugh:

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            Just IT stuff. It used to be very good at that. I find I am having to put words in quotes to force them into the search, its getting very annoying.

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                              Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap?

                              No, on the contrary. I find that google is incredibly good. :^)

                              There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                You are really surprised that Google (or any other company that does something in the internet) serves its own good and not yours?

                                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                Yup - Google's a charitable foundation. You, of course, send regular donations to keep it up and running. Sure it puts advertisers first - they're the ones who pay for Google. (Also why the EU isn't worthy of sucking a monkey's (kss) for trying to über-fine Google for doing what it's always done and never kept a secret. Nothing's free. Drink the Kool-Aide or brew your own. Nothing new here.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap?

                                  No, on the contrary. I find that google is incredibly good. :^)

                                  There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  I find it very sensitive to phrasing. And as I said it only seems ot pay attention to the first few words, put in 6 and the last three are ignored IMO.

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                                    I noticed it too. Then I was (and still am) forced to use Bing for 5 years... Not even the worst Google can match the best Bing in crappiness.

                                    DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                                    den2k88 wrote:

                                    was (and still am) forced to use Bing

                                    Why? How? I sometimes use something called ixquick - basically it's mostly add filtered google with privacy built in, but it also lacks suggestions. (Also doesn't always match google results, but it's refreshing having a search engine just return search results.) Sadly MS have broken bing just like every other product, with only the exceptions: 1. VS (excluding the installer which still auto installs without asking some extra crap), and, 2. SS (been a long while but I believe the DB is still OK, no idea if they broke the tools office though.) - but SS still a problem, somehow SS needs 387 things installed messing up the installed programs list, and wtf depends on what? Also needs around 236 processes running full time. I don't get that, mysql maybe lags a bit but needs only 1 installation and 1 process - easy to manage, easy to clean up.

                                    Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate

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                                      Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap? It ignores anything after the first two words, at best, and gives you the most popular links with those few words in them. Time to ditch it I think, its become useless.

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                                      Not sure about past few years, but lately the way it searches has definitely changed. I have noticed basically two things. 1. Previously it was matching all words to find a good match, so if you type required words in random order, it used to find links that may be a hit. NOW, it seem to matching with sentence and also applying some kind AI to infer what you are trying to search for. 2. Second, through my previous searches, it tries to find related link for this search. The first point is something I am not liking. As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links. That's my opinion though ! :)

                                      Thanks, Milind

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                                        Yup - Google's a charitable foundation. You, of course, send regular donations to keep it up and running. Sure it puts advertisers first - they're the ones who pay for Google. (Also why the EU isn't worthy of sucking a monkey's (kss) for trying to über-fine Google for doing what it's always done and never kept a secret. Nothing's free. Drink the Kool-Aide or brew your own. Nothing new here.

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        Exactly what I meant. The consequence is that the search results are optimized towards more $$$ for Google, not to be more helpful for the user. Only the OP seems to be surprised by this.

                                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                          Not sure about past few years, but lately the way it searches has definitely changed. I have noticed basically two things. 1. Previously it was matching all words to find a good match, so if you type required words in random order, it used to find links that may be a hit. NOW, it seem to matching with sentence and also applying some kind AI to infer what you are trying to search for. 2. Second, through my previous searches, it tries to find related link for this search. The first point is something I am not liking. As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links. That's my opinion though ! :)

                                          Thanks, Milind

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                                          MT_ wrote:

                                          As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links.

                                          Yep, exactly that. It no longer searches on a load of technical words they have to be in a phrase google can understand, and get that wrong, and its useless.

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