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  • L Lost User

    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    so you don't know sh|t

    Probably not, but I do know that the USA (and the rest of the world) can't take four years of this, it can't end well.

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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    This is what's called "Draining the Swamp". So, yes we all can take it. Go Trump!

    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      I'm surprised Saudi Arabia isn't on the list too...

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      And Egypt

      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        Trump negotiated a deal with Middle Eastern rulers to set up safe zones in Syria and other parts of the Middle East, the first big step to ending the refugee crisis altogether. Barely a week in office, he's already done more to solve world crises than all of Europe and America's leaders combined accomplished in the past 8 years. http://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/Trump-and-Saudi-king-agree-to-support-safe-zones-in-Syria-479967

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        Too bad. Seems they don't read jerusalem whatever [European Union President Donald Tusk says Donald Trump a threat to EU, making future "highly unpredictable" - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/european-union-donald-tusk-donald-trump-threat-eu-future-highly-unpredictable/)

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          Too bad. Seems they don't read jerusalem whatever [European Union President Donald Tusk says Donald Trump a threat to EU, making future "highly unpredictable" - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/european-union-donald-tusk-donald-trump-threat-eu-future-highly-unpredictable/)

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          The EU weasels are just worried that they may actually need to participate in their own defense. The horror!

          In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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          • L Lost User

            The EU weasels are just worried that they may actually need to participate in their own defense. The horror!

            In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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            Yup, they take the unhinged moron in the white house quite seriously ["United we stand, divided we fall": letter by President Donald Tusk to the 27 EU heads of state or government on the future of the EU before the Malta summit - Consilium](http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2017/01/31-tusk-letter-future-europe/)

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              Yup, they take the unhinged moron in the white house quite seriously ["United we stand, divided we fall": letter by President Donald Tusk to the 27 EU heads of state or government on the future of the EU before the Malta summit - Consilium](http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2017/01/31-tusk-letter-future-europe/)

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              Bad Hombre wrote:

              Yup, they take the unhinged moron in the white house quite seriously

              They should because us "unhinged morons" who elected the White House inhabitant are tired of providing military defense to a continent of ungrateful nanny states whose citizens constantly blame the US for every ill of the world. It's past time they look after themselves.

              In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                Bad Hombre wrote:

                Yup, they take the unhinged moron in the white house quite seriously

                They should because us "unhinged morons" who elected the White House inhabitant are tired of providing military defense to a continent of ungrateful nanny states whose citizens constantly blame the US for every ill of the world. It's past time they look after themselves.

                In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                You know Europe could theoretically make peace with Russia and the US would munch their freedom fries around the globe on their own. Less war more love, sounds good to me.

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                  You know Europe could theoretically make peace with Russia and the US would munch their freedom fries around the globe on their own. Less war more love, sounds good to me.

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                  Bad Hombre wrote:

                  You know Europe could theoretically make peace with Russia and the US would munch their freedom fries around the globe on their own.

                  We're counting on it.

                  Bad Hombre wrote:

                  Less war more love, sounds good to me.

                  :laugh: :laugh: You realize that Europeans are responsible for 2 world wars in the last century... right? Not exactly a peaceful group when left unsupervised.

                  In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                    Bad Hombre wrote:

                    You know Europe could theoretically make peace with Russia and the US would munch their freedom fries around the globe on their own.

                    We're counting on it.

                    Bad Hombre wrote:

                    Less war more love, sounds good to me.

                    :laugh: :laugh: You realize that Europeans are responsible for 2 world wars in the last century... right? Not exactly a peaceful group when left unsupervised.

                    In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                    Not to mention the 100 years war...

                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                      What, you mean he has actually done what I have been saying is the way ahead, safe zones in and around Syria protected by the UN? What next, fund them through Syrian oil sales? :)

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      fund them

                      by Saudi oil sales.

                      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        fund them

                        by Saudi oil sales.

                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        Why, they are Syrians, let them pay for their fucking mess. Might make the cunts calm down a bit when they see all that oil being shipped out.... :)

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                          Bad Hombre wrote:

                          You know Europe could theoretically make peace with Russia and the US would munch their freedom fries around the globe on their own.

                          We're counting on it.

                          Bad Hombre wrote:

                          Less war more love, sounds good to me.

                          :laugh: :laugh: You realize that Europeans are responsible for 2 world wars in the last century... right? Not exactly a peaceful group when left unsupervised.

                          In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                          Yeah, I don't think they will start a war with the US. But they will certainly stop buying any crap from there starting yesterday.

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                            Why, they are Syrians, let them pay for their fucking mess. Might make the cunts calm down a bit when they see all that oil being shipped out.... :)

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                            Actually, it' America's mess. We went in and started messing with Syria.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              Yeah, I don't think they will start a war with the US. But they will certainly stop buying any crap from there starting yesterday.

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                              Bad Hombre wrote:

                              I don't think they will start a war with the US

                              Neither do I - that would just be dumb. I was commenting on your implication that if the US left the EU to take care of itself and they befriended Russia there would be "less war, more love". History tells us the opposite.

                              Bad Hombre wrote:

                              But they will certainly stop buying any crap from there starting yesterday.

                              Meh! The US has run a trade deficit with the EU for decades. It helps us economically if we start "rolling our own".

                              In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                                Bad Hombre wrote:

                                I don't think they will start a war with the US

                                Neither do I - that would just be dumb. I was commenting on your implication that if the US left the EU to take care of itself and they befriended Russia there would be "less war, more love". History tells us the opposite.

                                Bad Hombre wrote:

                                But they will certainly stop buying any crap from there starting yesterday.

                                Meh! The US has run a trade deficit with the EU for decades. It helps us economically if we start "rolling our own".

                                In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                                Of course, just another trade war, who cares?

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                                  Of course, just another trade war, who cares?

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                                  It would be unfortunate but I'd prefer a trade war with the EU rather than continued lopsided US military expenditures (both lives and $) in their defense. Can you offer even a single rational reason why Europe shouldn't defend themselves?

                                  In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Actually, it' America's mess. We went in and started messing with Syria.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    How? As far as I saw the US stayed well out of it.

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                                      It would be unfortunate but I'd prefer a trade war with the EU rather than continued lopsided US military expenditures (both lives and $) in their defense. Can you offer even a single rational reason why Europe shouldn't defend themselves?

                                      In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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                                      US lives expenditures defending the EU hellooooooo :) I don't think the EU will pay any US demands. If anything they may ask the US to pack and leave. We will see. Interesting times.

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                                        How? As far as I saw the US stayed well out of it.

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                                        We helped instigate it. Nothing bad happens in the middle east without US involvement.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          US lives expenditures defending the EU hellooooooo :) I don't think the EU will pay any US demands. If anything they may ask the US to pack and leave. We will see. Interesting times.

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                                          I asked:

                                          Can you offer even a single rational reason why Europe shouldn't defend themselves?

                                          Bad Hombre wrote:

                                          So you got nothing, huh? Neither does anyone else... anywhere... ever... Yet we're getting grief from the EU and the MSM for suggesting that NATO is obsolete and that the EU should defend itself. :rolleyes:

                                          In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan

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