Windows 10 Taskbar
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The windows 10 taskbar is so close to being awesome on multi-monitors...yet so far away. It drives me nuts that they included these options for "Show taskbar buttons on": 1) All taskbars 2) Main taskbar and taskbar where window is open 3) Taskbar where window is open But neglected to include a separate option to toggle whether you want pinned items to appear on one taskbar or both...WHY??? For some reason they seemingly arbitrarily decided that pinned items appear on both taskbars if you pick #1, but #2 and #3 stop showing pinned items on secondary monitors. I want the option to open pinned items from either monitor, but I want opened windows to only show they are open on the monitor they are on, not on both. This seems like the most obvious and logical way to organize the taskbars, I don't understand why that isn't an option... The other thing that was driving me a little nuts was that if I had a Chrome window open on one monitor but clicked the taskbar icon on a different monitor, it always pops open on whichever other monitor a chrome window is already open on instead of the one that has my mouse on it. I'm glad to report I just solved that problem with a little background application that moves any new windows to the monitor your mouse is on if they open on another monitor, but COMMON I want pinned items on both screens and I don't want to clutter my main taskbar with windows open on other monitors. Is that so much to ask for?
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The windows 10 taskbar is so close to being awesome on multi-monitors...yet so far away. It drives me nuts that they included these options for "Show taskbar buttons on": 1) All taskbars 2) Main taskbar and taskbar where window is open 3) Taskbar where window is open But neglected to include a separate option to toggle whether you want pinned items to appear on one taskbar or both...WHY??? For some reason they seemingly arbitrarily decided that pinned items appear on both taskbars if you pick #1, but #2 and #3 stop showing pinned items on secondary monitors. I want the option to open pinned items from either monitor, but I want opened windows to only show they are open on the monitor they are on, not on both. This seems like the most obvious and logical way to organize the taskbars, I don't understand why that isn't an option... The other thing that was driving me a little nuts was that if I had a Chrome window open on one monitor but clicked the taskbar icon on a different monitor, it always pops open on whichever other monitor a chrome window is already open on instead of the one that has my mouse on it. I'm glad to report I just solved that problem with a little background application that moves any new windows to the monitor your mouse is on if they open on another monitor, but COMMON I want pinned items on both screens and I don't want to clutter my main taskbar with windows open on other monitors. Is that so much to ask for?
Mike Marynowski wrote:
Is that so much to ask for?
Yes. Remember, Win10 is aimed at tablets and phones, with desktops lucky to get a look-in. One screen, no hassle! Sell one of your monitors: problem solved! :laugh:
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Mike Marynowski wrote:
Is that so much to ask for?
Yes. Remember, Win10 is aimed at tablets and phones, with desktops lucky to get a look-in. One screen, no hassle! Sell one of your monitors: problem solved! :laugh:
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I think you're thinking windows 8. Windows 10 had shifted the focus back to desktop way more and added multi-monitor taskbars for the first time ever, which is nice, except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly.
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I think you're thinking windows 8. Windows 10 had shifted the focus back to desktop way more and added multi-monitor taskbars for the first time ever, which is nice, except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly.
Windows 10 is "Windows 8 SP2" - it's better for desktops, but it's still clear they are an afterthought. Compare Win10 with Win7, and you'll see the "desktop focus" is still poor, with useless Metro / UWP apps and such littering the thing, and a lack of "cohesive design" which Win7 showed in spades. And before you ask, yes, I'm running Win10 on my desktop; yes, my WookieTab is running Win10 far, far more than Android.
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I think you're thinking windows 8. Windows 10 had shifted the focus back to desktop way more and added multi-monitor taskbars for the first time ever, which is nice, except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly.
Mike Marynowski wrote:
except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly
Like that'll ever get fixed. The wisest thing is probably to use a third-party taskbar app. The guys making smaller apps have their hearts in the game; ms is running (and stumbling) in completely different directions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Windows 10 is "Windows 8 SP2" - it's better for desktops, but it's still clear they are an afterthought. Compare Win10 with Win7, and you'll see the "desktop focus" is still poor, with useless Metro / UWP apps and such littering the thing, and a lack of "cohesive design" which Win7 showed in spades. And before you ask, yes, I'm running Win10 on my desktop; yes, my WookieTab is running Win10 far, far more than Android.
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Sorry, my mistake, multi monitor taskbars were added in Windows 8 but were much more limited. They expanded features in 10 to make it usable, now maybe they will get it right in the next release haha. And while I kind of agree regarding Windows 8 SP2, I think Windows 10 is now a far better operating system even for desktops than Windows 7 was. I know not everyone agrees with that but other than the taskbar issue, I really love Windows 10, especially after all the updates now. I disagree that desktop is an afterthought at this point just because it has pretty metro stuff everywhere. I find it works great.
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Mike Marynowski wrote:
except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly
Like that'll ever get fixed. The wisest thing is probably to use a third-party taskbar app. The guys making smaller apps have their hearts in the game; ms is running (and stumbling) in completely different directions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
They've been improving multi-monitor support every release since original Win8 so I have my hopes up. That said, I used to use Ultramon waaaay back in the day when I was still sporting multiple CRTs so maybe I'll check out how it's doing these days.
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Mike Marynowski wrote:
except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly
Like that'll ever get fixed. The wisest thing is probably to use a third-party taskbar app. The guys making smaller apps have their hearts in the game; ms is running (and stumbling) in completely different directions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Holy crap, I just checked out the DisplayFusion feature list...all for $25. I think that's a no-brainer :omg:
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Holy crap, I just checked out the DisplayFusion feature list...all for $25. I think that's a no-brainer :omg:
A bit more than "WOW! You can now have your taskbar on two screens! Aren't you lucky! Aren't we great!", eh? That's what you get from developers whose head is in the game.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Sorry, my mistake, multi monitor taskbars were added in Windows 8 but were much more limited. They expanded features in 10 to make it usable, now maybe they will get it right in the next release haha. And while I kind of agree regarding Windows 8 SP2, I think Windows 10 is now a far better operating system even for desktops than Windows 7 was. I know not everyone agrees with that but other than the taskbar issue, I really love Windows 10, especially after all the updates now. I disagree that desktop is an afterthought at this point just because it has pretty metro stuff everywhere. I find it works great.
I disagree, to an extent: look at all the UWP apps. Settings - where you can't find anything you want, but it takes a huge amount of space to do it - and you end up going back to Control Panel for anything serious. Or the Mail app - right click a picture in Explorer, select "Send to"..."Mail Recipient" and watch what happens. You need to install the non-UWP Live Mail (from the now discontinued Windows Essentials pack) to do what happened correctly in Win7. And don't get me started on the Fisher-Price start menu, or the advertising, or Cortana's obsession with Bong, or ... :mad:
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They've been improving multi-monitor support every release since original Win8 so I have my hopes up. That said, I used to use Ultramon waaaay back in the day when I was still sporting multiple CRTs so maybe I'll check out how it's doing these days.
I've still got ultramon on two of my boxes. I don't recall any huge changes, recently, but it's certainly crossed OS versions painlessly -- the weven --> weight --> winio changes were probably enough to keep them busy for a lot of time.
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I disagree, to an extent: look at all the UWP apps. Settings - where you can't find anything you want, but it takes a huge amount of space to do it - and you end up going back to Control Panel for anything serious. Or the Mail app - right click a picture in Explorer, select "Send to"..."Mail Recipient" and watch what happens. You need to install the non-UWP Live Mail (from the now discontinued Windows Essentials pack) to do what happened correctly in Win7. And don't get me started on the Fisher-Price start menu, or the advertising, or Cortana's obsession with Bong, or ... :mad:
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Click a hyperlink/button inside UWP Mail, I dare you. It takes 10+ seconds till the browser launches. There is so much wrong with UWP.
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A bit more than "WOW! You can now have your taskbar on two screens! Aren't you lucky! Aren't we great!", eh? That's what you get from developers whose head is in the game.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Omggggg I think I'm actually in heaven right now playing with DisplayFusion. That said, their feature to open application windows on the current monitor is buggy as all hell and doesn't work most of the time, so my little window moving app isn't going to waste at the moment. I have a nicer window scaling algorithm in place for different sized monitors as well. That combined with DisplayFusion's ability to pin different items on each taskbar along with the window management features has me looooving life right now.
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Mike Marynowski wrote:
except that it *really* needs that minor tweak to make it power user friendly
Like that'll ever get fixed. The wisest thing is probably to use a third-party taskbar app. The guys making smaller apps have their hearts in the game; ms is running (and stumbling) in completely different directions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Like that'll ever get fixed.The wisest thing is probably to use a third-party taskbar app.The guys making smaller apps have their hearts in the game; ms is running (and stumbling) in completely different directions.
What I'm waiting for before going full time 10 is for ms to stop making major and functional changes - for instance the update/delayed updates type issues. Once they do that the third party apps that fix 10's problems that ms wont fix (or say cant be fixed) can also stabalise (for instance start menu, metro, telemetry...) 10's still not ready, still not secure enough, still remains unreliable.
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Windows 10 is "Windows 8 SP2" - it's better for desktops, but it's still clear they are an afterthought. Compare Win10 with Win7, and you'll see the "desktop focus" is still poor, with useless Metro / UWP apps and such littering the thing, and a lack of "cohesive design" which Win7 showed in spades. And before you ask, yes, I'm running Win10 on my desktop; yes, my WookieTab is running Win10 far, far more than Android.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Omggggg I think I'm actually in heaven right now playing with DisplayFusion. That said, their feature to open application windows on the current monitor is buggy as all hell and doesn't work most of the time, so my little window moving app isn't going to waste at the moment. I have a nicer window scaling algorithm in place for different sized monitors as well. That combined with DisplayFusion's ability to pin different items on each taskbar along with the window management features has me looooving life right now.
There's such a dark cloud over the software world, lately, that it's actually a pleasure hearing someone speaking well and enthusiastically of software company.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The windows 10 taskbar is so close to being awesome on multi-monitors...yet so far away. It drives me nuts that they included these options for "Show taskbar buttons on": 1) All taskbars 2) Main taskbar and taskbar where window is open 3) Taskbar where window is open But neglected to include a separate option to toggle whether you want pinned items to appear on one taskbar or both...WHY??? For some reason they seemingly arbitrarily decided that pinned items appear on both taskbars if you pick #1, but #2 and #3 stop showing pinned items on secondary monitors. I want the option to open pinned items from either monitor, but I want opened windows to only show they are open on the monitor they are on, not on both. This seems like the most obvious and logical way to organize the taskbars, I don't understand why that isn't an option... The other thing that was driving me a little nuts was that if I had a Chrome window open on one monitor but clicked the taskbar icon on a different monitor, it always pops open on whichever other monitor a chrome window is already open on instead of the one that has my mouse on it. I'm glad to report I just solved that problem with a little background application that moves any new windows to the monitor your mouse is on if they open on another monitor, but COMMON I want pinned items on both screens and I don't want to clutter my main taskbar with windows open on other monitors. Is that so much to ask for?
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Like that'll ever get fixed.The wisest thing is probably to use a third-party taskbar app.The guys making smaller apps have their hearts in the game; ms is running (and stumbling) in completely different directions.
What I'm waiting for before going full time 10 is for ms to stop making major and functional changes - for instance the update/delayed updates type issues. Once they do that the third party apps that fix 10's problems that ms wont fix (or say cant be fixed) can also stabalise (for instance start menu, metro, telemetry...) 10's still not ready, still not secure enough, still remains unreliable.
Sin tack ear lol Pressing the any key may be continuate
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Sounds like the type of suggestion they're looking for through Insider Feedback. Post it and let others upvote it. That's the only way MS will notice.
dandy72 wrote:
That's the only way MS will notice
No... you can write an email saying "I will tomorrow give feedback about XXXXX, because YYYYY" and so on. This way they already get the data and cortana will remind you, so they get the data twice :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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dandy72 wrote:
That's the only way MS will notice
No... you can write an email saying "I will tomorrow give feedback about XXXXX, because YYYYY" and so on. This way they already get the data and cortana will remind you, so they get the data twice :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
