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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Take it to your manager and let him take it further: then you can at least blame him if it all goes pear shaped! :laugh:

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    Gary Wheeler
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    Given how pear-shaped things already are in this place, I don't think anybody would notice. Grumble, grumble...

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Jochen Arndt wrote:

      In fact, the latter would be only on the list when I'm requested forced at gunpoint to put it there.

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Jochen Arndt
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      I was going to write that we don't have any guns here at work. But then I remembered that there is a compressed air powered nail gun somewhere in the work shop.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        So ... ransomware then? :laugh:

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        Gary Wheeler
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        Hmm. I never made that connection before. (thinks quietly; just ignore the sound of gear teeth breaking off) Nah. I don't think McAfee is competent to pull off any kind of extortion scheme. Besides, my wife and I are big fans of the old Perry Mason TV series[^], so I've learned how to counter every blackmail scheme known to man.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          McAfee molests Collies[^]. I can't believe some of the crap they convince corporate IT departments to buy. For example, our hard drives are encrypted using a McAfee product. Guess what happens if you have a motherboard fail, and you need to retrieve the data from the hard drive. You can't decrypt it. The data is completely unrecoverable.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          Midi_Mick
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          Gary Wheeler wrote:

          I can't believe some of the crap they convince corporate IT departments to buy

          How do you think Microsoft did so well? The office suite is some of the worst written software I have ever encountered, and yet.....

          Cheers, Mick ------------------------------------------------ It doesn't matter how often or hard you fall on your arse, eventually you'll roll over and land on your feet.

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          • G Gary Wheeler

            McAfee molests Collies[^]. I can't believe some of the crap they convince corporate IT departments to buy. For example, our hard drives are encrypted using a McAfee product. Guess what happens if you have a motherboard fail, and you need to retrieve the data from the hard drive. You can't decrypt it. The data is completely unrecoverable.

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            Nathan Minier
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            That sounds like a TPM-based encryption.... This should only be an issue if someone isn't backing up the TPM keys.

            "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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            • N Nathan Minier

              That sounds like a TPM-based encryption.... This should only be an issue if someone isn't backing up the TPM keys.

              "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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              Gary Wheeler
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              Let me put it this way. Every time we've needed to recover a hard drive, the attempt has failed. That's why my group has their own servers, running without the corporate encryption, and our working data is backed up to those servers nightly.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              • G Gary Wheeler

                Let me put it this way. Every time we've needed to recover a hard drive, the attempt has failed. That's why my group has their own servers, running without the corporate encryption, and our working data is backed up to those servers nightly.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                Nathan Minier
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                Security isn't doing their job then. It might be a good thing to remind them that Availability IS a leg in the triad.

                "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Talk to your manager - corporate rules don't have to make sense, but you flaunt them at your own risk. Many companies will start disciplinary processes for using "unapproved" sites and / or apps on company equipment. Just sayin', is all.

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Maximilien
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                  Don't forget to talk to him about all the time and money you wasted taking care of that.

                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                  • G Gary Wheeler

                    Hmm. I never made that connection before. (thinks quietly; just ignore the sound of gear teeth breaking off) Nah. I don't think McAfee is competent to pull off any kind of extortion scheme. Besides, my wife and I are big fans of the old Perry Mason TV series[^], so I've learned how to counter every blackmail scheme known to man.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                    I don't think McAfee is competent to pull off any kind of extortion scheme.

                    Hmmm. I'm pretty sure they are an extortion scheme: have you ever tried to remove their software once installed? :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      I don't think McAfee is competent to pull off any kind of extortion scheme.

                      Hmmm. I'm pretty sure they are an extortion scheme: have you ever tried to remove their software once installed? :laugh:

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Yes. The uninstall procedure was as follows: 1. Boot from a thumb drive. 2. Security wipe the primary drive. 3. Re-install Windows. 4. Re-install apps. 5. Reload data.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • J Jochen Arndt

                        I was going to write that we don't have any guns here at work. But then I remembered that there is a compressed air powered nail gun somewhere in the work shop.

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        Jochen Arndt wrote:

                        a compressed air powered nail gun somewhere in the work shop.

                        From personal experience, **NEVER** let a drunk plumber in the vicinity of one of these.

                        veni bibi saltavi

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          Jochen Arndt wrote:

                          a compressed air powered nail gun somewhere in the work shop.

                          From personal experience, **NEVER** let a drunk plumber in the vicinity of one of these.

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          Jochen Arndt
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                          Quote:

                          NEVER let a drunk plumber in the vicinity of one of these.

                          From personal experience too, craftsmen playing with tools of dissimilar trades are dangerous to your health.

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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            Yes. The uninstall procedure was as follows: 1. Boot from a thumb drive. 2. Security wipe the primary drive. 3. Re-install Windows. 4. Re-install apps. 5. Reload data.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            The official method is more fun: How To Uninstall McAfee Antivirus - YouTube[^] - probably NSFW, it starts with the "F" word ...

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              Quote:

                              NEVER let a drunk plumber in the vicinity of one of these.

                              From personal experience too, craftsmen playing with tools of dissimilar trades are dangerous to your health.

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              I think it may be the nail gun that's the problem here. :beer:

                              veni bibi saltavi

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                The official method is more fun: How To Uninstall McAfee Antivirus - YouTube[^] - probably NSFW, it starts with the "F" word ...

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                Nagy Vilmos
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                                That might get a slightly, teensy weensy bit NSFW. Just saying.

                                veni bibi saltavi

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  We use Inno Setup[^] for all of our installers, and have for years. I estimate we have over a man-year of work in installers for our products, optional features, etc. Yesterday I discovered that the innosetup.com site is now blocked by our IS department, which uses McAfee Web Gateway to manage 'prohibited' sites. Today I received an email from one of the IS yabbos to the effect that Inno Setup was not on the approved list of applications. I was told to apply for approval, and then they would consider beginning the exception process for the web site. What. The. Fuck. My plans are to be the good little corporate drone and fill out whatever numb-nuts crap they ask, and then go right the fuck ahead and continue to use Inno Setup. It works, it's easy to use, it's for crap's sake FREE. To paraphrase JSOP, they'll take my Inno Setup when they claw it from my cold, dead hard drive. (*) Corporate Douche-baggery Of The Day

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  Nagy Vilmos
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                                  The correct procedure is of course to ask the IS dweebs to show you the audit of the software on \*their\* machines. Oh and while you're there, their browser history :laugh:

                                  veni bibi saltavi

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    That might get a slightly, teensy weensy bit NSFW. Just saying.

                                    veni bibi saltavi

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                                    OriginalGriff
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                                    I'd forgotten that it starts with the "F" word ... edited. :thumbsup:

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I'd forgotten that it starts with the "F" word ... edited. :thumbsup:

                                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                      Nagy Vilmos
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                                      ... and there are quite a lot of girls who obviously didn't take their mam's advice to dress up warm. Or to dress at all for that matter.

                                      veni bibi saltavi

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        We use Inno Setup[^] for all of our installers, and have for years. I estimate we have over a man-year of work in installers for our products, optional features, etc. Yesterday I discovered that the innosetup.com site is now blocked by our IS department, which uses McAfee Web Gateway to manage 'prohibited' sites. Today I received an email from one of the IS yabbos to the effect that Inno Setup was not on the approved list of applications. I was told to apply for approval, and then they would consider beginning the exception process for the web site. What. The. Fuck. My plans are to be the good little corporate drone and fill out whatever numb-nuts crap they ask, and then go right the fuck ahead and continue to use Inno Setup. It works, it's easy to use, it's for crap's sake FREE. To paraphrase JSOP, they'll take my Inno Setup when they claw it from my cold, dead hard drive. (*) Corporate Douche-baggery Of The Day

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Most people only learn just barely enough to do their jobs, so they simply just do not know better. I'd talk to someone higher up and get it sorted out.

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        • G Gary Wheeler

                                          We use Inno Setup[^] for all of our installers, and have for years. I estimate we have over a man-year of work in installers for our products, optional features, etc. Yesterday I discovered that the innosetup.com site is now blocked by our IS department, which uses McAfee Web Gateway to manage 'prohibited' sites. Today I received an email from one of the IS yabbos to the effect that Inno Setup was not on the approved list of applications. I was told to apply for approval, and then they would consider beginning the exception process for the web site. What. The. Fuck. My plans are to be the good little corporate drone and fill out whatever numb-nuts crap they ask, and then go right the fuck ahead and continue to use Inno Setup. It works, it's easy to use, it's for crap's sake FREE. To paraphrase JSOP, they'll take my Inno Setup when they claw it from my cold, dead hard drive. (*) Corporate Douche-baggery Of The Day

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          The project I'm working on gathers data from various other teams. Some provide extracts in Excel (ptui) and they say they can't provide it any other way :rolleyes: . So we use the ACE Engine and SSIS' Excel Source component to read the data into SQL Server. We've been doing this for years. And just recently the wombats in security said, "Oh, no, you have Office installed on your servers, we can't have that". :sigh:

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