for the people of London
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Let me be the first to congratulate you on using a tragedy to peddle your own brand of hatred. It's so refreshing to see a post like this at such an inappropriate point. I am sure those friends of mine, who identify as Muslim, are secretly plotting to terrorise me by being the first people who got in touch with me last night to say how horrified they are. It's all a subtle plot on their part. I see it now. Thank you for enlightening me. I am now, also a small minded xenophobe.
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Pete, I understand the validity of your points. Would love to discuss further with you in the soapbox in the future when it's not so raw, but we both know it will not sway either of our point of view. But I'd like to give a tiny example. English football fans had a reputation for hooliganism. Now when we go abroad lots are banned from travelling ( those with known links to hooliganism/Isis). The ones that are allowed to travel (normal football fans/ moderate muslims) get extra police attention, In some cases get penned in or treated badly etc. Basically the majority get treated badly because of the actions of a minority of our following. We understand why and we accept it.
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[God as the Original Terrorist: How the Bible Condones Atrocious Acts of Terror | Alternet](http://www.alternet.org/belief/god-original-terrorist-how-bible-condones-atrocious-acts-terror) > By one count, the Quran has only 532 cruel or violent passages, while the Bible has 1,321. Christians respond that the Bible is longer, so the cruel, violent passages make up a smaller percent of the whole. [Christianity and violence - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity\_and\_violence) Just saying. Marc
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PJ Arends wrote:
A long as western society continues to coddle and defend an ideology that is diametrically opposed to everything that western society stands for, these kinds of attacks will continue to happen.
And there is the rub, we - the west - believe that all people should have the freedom to think; to speak; to worship; to education as they wish provided it doesn't harm others. Fanatics - of all sorts, not just these a*seholes - don't want that because it exposes the holes in their ideology that keeps them in power and others ground under them. You can't defeat fanatics with violence, it makes them victims and increases their sense of moral justification and thus the numbers they can get to follow their twisted methodology. Only education and removing the conditions under which they can recruit new members can win in the long run. The current series of attacks smell of desperation: ISIS / ISIL are facing military losses; territorial losses; and probably feel that they need some kind of "triumph" to prevent desertion of those in their own ranks who can see what is happening.
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