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    Can Microbes Encourage Altruism? - Scientific American [^] ... for some reason my selfish genes were making me hear Annie Lenox singing [^] while I read this: Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused What to do ? My denial dance card is so fully booked people tell me I almost look Egyptian. cheers, Bill

    «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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      Can Microbes Encourage Altruism? - Scientific American [^] ... for some reason my selfish genes were making me hear Annie Lenox singing [^] while I read this: Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused What to do ? My denial dance card is so fully booked people tell me I almost look Egyptian. cheers, Bill

      «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      Nah, it's just the Universe talking to you. ;P

      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        Nah, it's just the Universe talking to you. ;P

        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        I'd be very comfortable if the messengers from the universe were bacteria, that form of life that Stephen Jay Gould so often reminded us is the modal form of life on this planet ! If only I had seven stomachs to ruminate with.

        «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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          I'd be very comfortable if the messengers from the universe were bacteria, that form of life that Stephen Jay Gould so often reminded us is the modal form of life on this planet ! If only I had seven stomachs to ruminate with.

          «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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          BillWoodruff wrote:

          seven stomachs to ruminate

          Forsooth!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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            Can Microbes Encourage Altruism? - Scientific American [^] ... for some reason my selfish genes were making me hear Annie Lenox singing [^] while I read this: Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused What to do ? My denial dance card is so fully booked people tell me I almost look Egyptian. cheers, Bill

            «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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            Perhaps there is no need of microbes to explain the evolution advantage of altruism under certain social context in which member relations are many to many. There are many examples in real life that "good, but not foolish members", which most likely are intelligent and have certain altruism quality, are treated better by (many) others and they end up getting more rewards. On the other hand, selfish "smart" members are treated the same by others for self protection and end up getting less. In the end, the group with more selfish members lose the competitive advantages in a larger social context ... OK I haven't formulate a mathematical model for this "theory" to find the level of altruism needed to be regarded as "good" ...

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              Can Microbes Encourage Altruism? - Scientific American [^] ... for some reason my selfish genes were making me hear Annie Lenox singing [^] while I read this: Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused What to do ? My denial dance card is so fully booked people tell me I almost look Egyptian. cheers, Bill

              «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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              It makes sense; lots of chemistry that change mood in the body :)

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                Can Microbes Encourage Altruism? - Scientific American [^] ... for some reason my selfish genes were making me hear Annie Lenox singing [^] while I read this: Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused What to do ? My denial dance card is so fully booked people tell me I almost look Egyptian. cheers, Bill

                «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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                There's a lot of wisdom in sayings like "my gut tells me..." Marc

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                  Can Microbes Encourage Altruism? - Scientific American [^] ... for some reason my selfish genes were making me hear Annie Lenox singing [^] while I read this: Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused What to do ? My denial dance card is so fully booked people tell me I almost look Egyptian. cheers, Bill

                  «Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE

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                  Everything old is new again.... I cannot disguise All the stomach pains And the walking of the canes When you, do come out And you whisper up to me In your life of tragedy But I cannot grow Till you eat the last of me Oh when will I be free And you, a parasite Just find another host Just another fool to roast Cause you My tapeworm tells me what to do You My tapeworm tells me where to go

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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