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  • D den2k88

    Munchies_Matt wrote:

    If Romeo and Juliet is similar, then it is similarly shallow.

    Only the ending where the two families (Darth Vader) recognize the darkness and the error of their warfare (Vader's service under Palpatine) only when they see the corpses of their son and daughter (Luke dying at the hand of the Emperor).

    Munchies_Matt wrote:

    The lack of recognition of his power by the council would not drive an inherently good person to evil.

    He wasn't inherently good - he was vindicative, as he salughtered the Tusken raiders from the first to last, children included, after their rape of his mother. He became "evil" for fear of seeing his wife and kids die during childbirth (thank you very much, Force visions) and due to years of endless warfare (Clone Wars) that left him mentally exhausted and pushed by the same "pacifist" council to increasing violent acts of war for "the greater good". Take a person, make him commit atrocities, add disillusion in those who bring forth his ideals, add a deep fear for his loved ones and some frustration for flavor... no wonder he wants to destroy or conquer everything.

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    den2k88 wrote:

    He wasn't inherently good - he was vindicative, as he salughtered the Tusken raiders from the first to last, children included, after their rape of his mother.

    I guess I missed that. Which film was that in? Perhaps it was just badly acted then, the process of his descent into evil was unconvincing for me.

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      den2k88 wrote:

      He wasn't inherently good - he was vindicative, as he salughtered the Tusken raiders from the first to last, children included, after their rape of his mother.

      I guess I missed that. Which film was that in? Perhaps it was just badly acted then, the process of his descent into evil was unconvincing for me.

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      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      I guess I missed that. Which film was that in?

      Attack of the Clones. The worst written worst acted piece of... movie... ever. And Hayden Christensen could be anything he wanted to be. Why did he choose to be an actor, I will never understand. Terrible.

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      • D den2k88

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        I guess I missed that. Which film was that in?

        Attack of the Clones. The worst written worst acted piece of... movie... ever. And Hayden Christensen could be anything he wanted to be. Why did he choose to be an actor, I will never understand. Terrible.

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        den2k88 wrote:

        And Hayden Christensen could be anything he wanted to be. Why did he choose to be an actor, I will never understand. Terrible.

        This is probably the root cause of it. Totally unconvincing.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          People that like the story/series all say it's the best star wars movie made to date. People that are ho-hum about the story/series give mixed reviews. People that don't like the story/series will all say that it's just more of the same garbage. It's the same with any franchise. I learned a long time ago not to rely on other people's opinions of things, and prefer to go through the act of discovery on my own.

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          Nish Nishant
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          Most excellent approach. :thumbsup:

          Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            The new Star Wars movie came out at midnight - 17 hours ago - and not one post about it. No "as bad as The Force Awakens". No "best thing since sliced Jedi". Total silence. Surely, the Disney company can't have put all the die-hard Jedi off watching it? I admit, I'll wait for it on DVD - I kept expecting Rey to sing a duet with bluebirds in TFA...

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            Nicholas Marty
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            Until now. I didn't even know that there was a new star wars movie :-O

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              The new Star Wars movie came out at midnight - 17 hours ago - and not one post about it. No "as bad as The Force Awakens". No "best thing since sliced Jedi". Total silence. Surely, the Disney company can't have put all the die-hard Jedi off watching it? I admit, I'll wait for it on DVD - I kept expecting Rey to sing a duet with bluebirds in TFA...

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              Dan Neely
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              I'm not sure how you've found a way to post from 1983 when the last Star Wars movie came out, but having done so ; couldn't you have come up with something more interesting to say?

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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