Right, time to lose weight.

[HobbyProggy]

Munchies_Matt wrote:

Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI. Rye bread for example has a Glycemic Index of 45, not much more than broccoli, so that is an OK carb.

That is not eating :) But with the fondue i agree! :-D

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[HobbyProggy]

Matt.L wrote:

I just like quoting the choc bar vs exercise example.

Which is perfectly right for that particular situation, but please think about burning after excercise and the gain of muscles, which actually will also burn calories by default. That is why i'd suggest you to start training instead of stop eating :) you have 2 ways, raise your daily need or reduce your daily input, i prefer the first. But thats all just my opinion on that topic.

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[HobbyProggy]

Nobody said he has to run a marathon :)

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[Munchies_Matt]

It is eating, whats wrong with lamb curry without the rice? Steak with broccoli, endive, and chimichurri sauce? Delicious! :)

[HobbyProggy]

At least you understood the basis of what i wanted to say :)

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[HobbyProggy]

Nothing. I may drop out of the discussion, i am not a fan of the low carb hype-train, i am not a fan of energy boosters or high nutrient drinks for or after "workout". I prefer the steady and probably more effort costing method. And since our views differ on that alot i guess it's better not to argue about it. Because in the end, everybody needs to find his way to do it :thumbsup:

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[Jorgen Andersson]

Munchies_Matt wrote:

That's it, I finally admitted I am fat.

Considering your old moniker, fat_boy, it can't be that recent. Opinion: Don't go zero carb, your body will go into starvation mode and start spewing out huge amounts of enzymes to use every gram of the food you eat. Plus it makes you hungrier. That's simply how we are made. So go low and slow, but don't cut it completely. To keep the worst parts of losing weight at bay, (hunger, mood swings, and weakness) you need to think of your blood sugar level. When the blood sugar is high, the surplus is stored away as fat. So, keep your portions smaller and reduce the amount of carbs. Especially the fast carbs that spikes your blood sugar. When your blood sugar is low, the body doesn't just react by making you hungry, it also creates extra much enzymes to turn the fat and proteins you eat into energy. So you need to snack in between your meals to keep your blood sugar from dropping to much. Then again, all these diets, low GI, LCHF and whatever is the hype is today, are better designed to keep you from gaining weight. To lose weight you simply need to eat less than you use. There's no way around that.

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[Bassam Abdul Baki]

Really? I say looz wayt.

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[Munchies_Matt]

Well, you cant go zero carb, plant fiber is a carb, so broccoli has a glycemic index of 40 or so, so in fact what it is a low GI diet, any carb lower than GI 50. This stops blood sugar spiking up, triggering insulin and fat storage. Without the insulin the body starts to use its fat store instead of triggering hunger (because you dont go into a low blood sugar state). One benefit of apple cider vinegar is helping to normalise blood sugar, so I am taking that too.

[CodeWraith]

Too bad. I already hoped to get him to sign up for my specially trained Pitbull running coach.

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[The pompey]

I take apple cider vinegar for acid reflux - if I lose weight too that's an added bonus.

[Jorgen Andersson]

Munchies_Matt wrote:

One benefit of apple cider vinegar is helping to normalise blood sugar,

Never heard of that, why would it do that?

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[snorkie]

Congrats Matt on making a change! I hope you find the willpower to reach all of your goals. The struggle is real!

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[Maximilien]

Munchies_Matt wrote:

Look, body builders trim down before events, and work out while doing so to get their fat down to really low levels, so they must know some tricks. :)

Yeah, they do drugs.

I'd rather be phishing!

[Lost User]

Munchies_Matt wrote:

There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it

There's nothing gross about it, and 120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer. I'm underweight, so trying to do your opposite.

Munchies_Matt wrote:

Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it.

Yes, because it is fermented. Stuff like sauerkraut (on bread with a wurst, or "hotdog"), kefir (fermented milk, yoghurt like), kombucha (fermented tea), and any pickles contain similar bacteria. If you pasteurize any of those (or heat it in general), then some of the good bacteria in it will die. The sauerkraut has the added benefit of providing lots of fibers.

Munchies_Matt wrote:

Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI

So no more take-out Chinese or pizza? I do hope you have at least one cheat-day per month?

Munchies_Matt wrote:

And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories (Source[^]) Best wishes, hope you achieve your goal :)

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[Maximilien]

First and foremost: Ask a bunch of nerds on a programming forum!!! That'll go well. ;P seriously, Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist. spend a few bucks getting a good nutrition plan based on your lifestyle and need and goal.

I'd rather be phishing!

[Jorgen Andersson]

You forgot the beer. :)

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[Lost User]

A single yeast-culture is a bit different from the probiotics-culture in sauerkraut :)

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[Lost User]

Maximilien wrote:

Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist.

..and pay a lot for the latest official guidelines and nonsense. You can keep your two liters of water per day :)

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[F ES Sitecore]

You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths. No industry works to put itself out of business, if what the fitness industry told you about weight loss worked then they'd be doing just that, so everything they tell you is a lie. Lies you (and from the replies, every other person on this thread) believe, so you are, I'm afraid, doomed to fail. Think about it...if losing weight or maintaining a healthy weight was such a complex balance of what you eat and chemical interactions then why aren't the intelligent nations healthy and the stupid nations fat? Why do you only get an obesity crisis in countries where manual labour is rare and food is in abundance?