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  • R Ryan Binns

    perx wrote: NOTE TO VC++ GEEKS OUT THERE Don't follow this link for any reason, it can excite envy to you! Nope. I'm more likely to throw up :) Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
    Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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    Have you used Java or J2EE? ;) Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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      Have you used Java or J2EE? ;) Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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      Yes, but thankfully not very much. :) Java itself is ok, but any program run under the JRE is automatically the slowest piece of software in the world. It's ok for web stuff (because of its cross-platform properties) but using it for anything else is the most stupid decision that someone could make, unless of course they don't care about having time to make (and drink) a cup of coffee in between each instruction. I just hope that I never have to touch it again. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
      Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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        Yes, but thankfully not very much. :) Java itself is ok, but any program run under the JRE is automatically the slowest piece of software in the world. It's ok for web stuff (because of its cross-platform properties) but using it for anything else is the most stupid decision that someone could make, unless of course they don't care about having time to make (and drink) a cup of coffee in between each instruction. I just hope that I never have to touch it again. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
        Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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        The 'not very much' part says it all.... It's just like saying "I hate something just because I don't know it". Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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        • P Paul Watson

          Rickard Andersson18 wrote: and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... Java is fine. Java runtime environment bad. Actually the other day I was shocked to find myself LIKING a Java Applet embedded in a web page. I even, but only for a picosecond, considered licensing the applet for my projects.

          Paul Watson
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          Cape Town, South Africa

          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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          Brian Delahunty
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          So. You like Java Applets now Paul... Hmmm... Testing friendships is all your doing now Paul. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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            The 'not very much' part says it all.... It's just like saying "I hate something just because I don't know it". Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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            Not at all. I've been programming in Java for about 3 years, although not in the last 6 months. It's similar enough to C++ that it was very quick to learn (since I've been programming in C++ for about 7yrs). Even running on my Celeron 900 a really simple app is really slow. I don't like the JRE and the fact that Java is interpreted and not compiled. It makes it perfect for web stuff, but pretty useless for apps that need a bit of performance. I don't have a problem with the language, but simply the fact that it is interpreted and is therefore really slow. If someone wrote a compiler that produced standalone executables (I'm not sure if one exists) then I'd look at Java more. But until then I don't see the point of it for most situations. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
            Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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            • R Ryan Binns

              Not at all. I've been programming in Java for about 3 years, although not in the last 6 months. It's similar enough to C++ that it was very quick to learn (since I've been programming in C++ for about 7yrs). Even running on my Celeron 900 a really simple app is really slow. I don't like the JRE and the fact that Java is interpreted and not compiled. It makes it perfect for web stuff, but pretty useless for apps that need a bit of performance. I don't have a problem with the language, but simply the fact that it is interpreted and is therefore really slow. If someone wrote a compiler that produced standalone executables (I'm not sure if one exists) then I'd look at Java more. But until then I don't see the point of it for most situations. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
              Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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              Stephane Rodriguez
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              I can't believe you don't know both Sun and MS have been distributing native exe gens for years. For instance, MS distributes jexegen.exe (part of the Java SDK).

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                Not at all. I've been programming in Java for about 3 years, although not in the last 6 months. It's similar enough to C++ that it was very quick to learn (since I've been programming in C++ for about 7yrs). Even running on my Celeron 900 a really simple app is really slow. I don't like the JRE and the fact that Java is interpreted and not compiled. It makes it perfect for web stuff, but pretty useless for apps that need a bit of performance. I don't have a problem with the language, but simply the fact that it is interpreted and is therefore really slow. If someone wrote a compiler that produced standalone executables (I'm not sure if one exists) then I'd look at Java more. But until then I don't see the point of it for most situations. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                Are you familiar with the concept of JIT compilers?? Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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