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    Michael Breeden
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    We have a number of developers using RPG on iSeries machines. Our company is going to the cloud and really wants to get rid of the iSeries ... and those developers. What should they be doing to prepare for a new job. My thought is they should be studying SQL (SQL Server or maybe Oracle) and NoSQL (maybe Mongo) so that they can leverage what they know to more current technology. They might want to get familiar with My SQL and PostGRE in the context of AWS. Are there any suggestions you could offer? Somehow I ended up on the group that is supposed to advise them.

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      We have a number of developers using RPG on iSeries machines. Our company is going to the cloud and really wants to get rid of the iSeries ... and those developers. What should they be doing to prepare for a new job. My thought is they should be studying SQL (SQL Server or maybe Oracle) and NoSQL (maybe Mongo) so that they can leverage what they know to more current technology. They might want to get familiar with My SQL and PostGRE in the context of AWS. Are there any suggestions you could offer? Somehow I ended up on the group that is supposed to advise them.

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      Maximilien
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      Curious, you want to get rid of developers and at the same time train them for another job (employer?) ?

      I'd rather be phishing!

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        We have a number of developers using RPG on iSeries machines. Our company is going to the cloud and really wants to get rid of the iSeries ... and those developers. What should they be doing to prepare for a new job. My thought is they should be studying SQL (SQL Server or maybe Oracle) and NoSQL (maybe Mongo) so that they can leverage what they know to more current technology. They might want to get familiar with My SQL and PostGRE in the context of AWS. Are there any suggestions you could offer? Somehow I ended up on the group that is supposed to advise them.

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        OriginalGriff
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        Or ... you could act like responsible human beings and retrain them for the new environment.

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          Curious, you want to get rid of developers and at the same time train them for another job (employer?) ?

          I'd rather be phishing!

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          RugbyLeague
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          Well, if they are spending all their time playing RPGs...

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            Well, if they are spending all their time playing RPGs...

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            OriginalGriff
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            No, no - he needs to be carefull. They are playing with Rocket Propelled Grenades. :~

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              No, no - he needs to be carefull. They are playing with Rocket Propelled Grenades. :~

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              RugbyLeague
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              Don't all programmers do that?

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                Don't all programmers do that?

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                OriginalGriff
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                Nah, some prefer swords, or fireball spells, or an X-Wing.

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                  Well, if they are spending all their time playing RPGs...

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                  Lost User
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                  I thought he meant "Redmond Programming Guidelines," I guess he wants people that can do more than reinstall windows any time things stop working.

                  This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!

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                    Curious, you want to get rid of developers and at the same time train them for another job (employer?) ?

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    Michael Breeden
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                    I was just trying to help. We are undergoing "Digital Transformation". I have no idea if my job is safe, I've been told not but my skills are more mainstream. I just accidentally volunteered to help out and one thing I thought might help was if those people could update their skills. I said what I thought they should do, but was looking for other suggestions.

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                      We have a number of developers using RPG on iSeries machines. Our company is going to the cloud and really wants to get rid of the iSeries ... and those developers. What should they be doing to prepare for a new job. My thought is they should be studying SQL (SQL Server or maybe Oracle) and NoSQL (maybe Mongo) so that they can leverage what they know to more current technology. They might want to get familiar with My SQL and PostGRE in the context of AWS. Are there any suggestions you could offer? Somehow I ended up on the group that is supposed to advise them.

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                      This is one of the most common, and most difficult, questions posted here. Yes, you could advise them to go and learn SQL or some other database, or maybe Sharepoint, or ASP.NET. But that will not guarantee future employment. You, and they, need to decide what they would like to do, and what opportunities exist in their locality.

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                        We have a number of developers using RPG on iSeries machines. Our company is going to the cloud and really wants to get rid of the iSeries ... and those developers. What should they be doing to prepare for a new job. My thought is they should be studying SQL (SQL Server or maybe Oracle) and NoSQL (maybe Mongo) so that they can leverage what they know to more current technology. They might want to get familiar with My SQL and PostGRE in the context of AWS. Are there any suggestions you could offer? Somehow I ended up on the group that is supposed to advise them.

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                        Well currently all over the globe software houses and shops have re-skill plans in place with a consideration towards the future and the so call digital transformation.Skeptical as it may be. Microsoft themself have tied up with edx and have a few courses @ Microsoft - Free Courses from Microsoft | edX[^] also Introduction to Data Science[^] Training for such areas could be arranged and such courses could be conducted in your company for transforming or re-skilling.Moving to the cloud does not by itself mean that things will just work as planned unless you are contracting out the whole stuff. Then its time for that long vacation.

                        Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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