Q&A Pet Peeves
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This was intended to be a humorous discussion, but I clearly failed in that regard. Based on the responses, I seem to have unintentionally touched a nerve. Since I can't simply delete the post, and I do believe in transparency, I'll leave it unedited below. Needless to say, I won't be collating responses. I'll just take my lumps and move on...lesson learned :) --- Original Message --- I've been lurking around the CodeProject's Q&A forums a little bit lately and noticing a few trends. I thought it might be fun to share pet peeves...I'm coming down with a case of them lately :) I truly don't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, so please be nice, keep it general, and don't call out anyone by name. Remember we all started out needing to learn. So, to get it started, here are some of my pet peeves. What are yours? "it didn't work" - Help us. What was "it"? And, how did it fail to meet your expectations? "nothing happened" - Really, nothing? Could you please be less specific? "help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :) Also...no quote here, but the purity police rush in, leave an opinion, and utterly fail to answer the question. I am curious to hear your experiences. In a few days, if there is any interest, I'll try to collate and rank similar observations. Also, what's the consensus? Should I simply edit this post to include the results? Or, should I make a new post with the results?
Eric Lynch wrote:
"help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :)
If it is urgent, call 911. Anything else can wait until tomorrow.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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This was intended to be a humorous discussion, but I clearly failed in that regard. Based on the responses, I seem to have unintentionally touched a nerve. Since I can't simply delete the post, and I do believe in transparency, I'll leave it unedited below. Needless to say, I won't be collating responses. I'll just take my lumps and move on...lesson learned :) --- Original Message --- I've been lurking around the CodeProject's Q&A forums a little bit lately and noticing a few trends. I thought it might be fun to share pet peeves...I'm coming down with a case of them lately :) I truly don't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, so please be nice, keep it general, and don't call out anyone by name. Remember we all started out needing to learn. So, to get it started, here are some of my pet peeves. What are yours? "it didn't work" - Help us. What was "it"? And, how did it fail to meet your expectations? "nothing happened" - Really, nothing? Could you please be less specific? "help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :) Also...no quote here, but the purity police rush in, leave an opinion, and utterly fail to answer the question. I am curious to hear your experiences. In a few days, if there is any interest, I'll try to collate and rank similar observations. Also, what's the consensus? Should I simply edit this post to include the results? Or, should I make a new post with the results?
Regarding your addendum I wouldn't take the responses to your post too much to heart. You may be a little innocent regarding the general tenor of the lounge - probably been too busy writing articles. In response to your original post I might add that the answers given in Q&A are not always edifying.
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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This was intended to be a humorous discussion, but I clearly failed in that regard. Based on the responses, I seem to have unintentionally touched a nerve. Since I can't simply delete the post, and I do believe in transparency, I'll leave it unedited below. Needless to say, I won't be collating responses. I'll just take my lumps and move on...lesson learned :) --- Original Message --- I've been lurking around the CodeProject's Q&A forums a little bit lately and noticing a few trends. I thought it might be fun to share pet peeves...I'm coming down with a case of them lately :) I truly don't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, so please be nice, keep it general, and don't call out anyone by name. Remember we all started out needing to learn. So, to get it started, here are some of my pet peeves. What are yours? "it didn't work" - Help us. What was "it"? And, how did it fail to meet your expectations? "nothing happened" - Really, nothing? Could you please be less specific? "help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :) Also...no quote here, but the purity police rush in, leave an opinion, and utterly fail to answer the question. I am curious to hear your experiences. In a few days, if there is any interest, I'll try to collate and rank similar observations. Also, what's the consensus? Should I simply edit this post to include the results? Or, should I make a new post with the results?
What CP needs is an AI that automatically responds to "peeve" questions, particularly homework questions, so we never see them. ;) Imagine the marketing potential -- a few tweaks, and it could filter out and answer 90% of the questions your SO asks! Alexa 2.0: "I'd be happy to answer that question..." :laugh:
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Regarding your addendum I wouldn't take the responses to your post too much to heart. You may be a little innocent regarding the general tenor of the lounge - probably been too busy writing articles. In response to your original post I might add that the answers given in Q&A are not always edifying.
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
Thank you, much appreciated. I promise I'm not taking it too much to heart :) I was (slightly) surprised that I upset folks with my post, not my intent. What can I say...I've got a weird sense of humor. At this point, simply looking to move on. You're completely correct, I enjoy writing articles much more. I think I'll stick to that in the future. Ironically, I also enjoy helping in Q&A, when I've been able. I'll still do that as well.
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What CP needs is an AI that automatically responds to "peeve" questions, particularly homework questions, so we never see them. ;) Imagine the marketing potential -- a few tweaks, and it could filter out and answer 90% of the questions your SO asks! Alexa 2.0: "I'd be happy to answer that question..." :laugh:
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
I'm with you on that one...thank you, Marc :)
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Eric Lynch wrote:
"help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :)
If it is urgent, call 911. Anything else can wait until tomorrow.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Fun stuff...I was checking out your articles. One of them is almost spot-on for a Q&A I recently tried to help with...getting a place name from a postal code. As with your article, I recommended GeoNames to the OP. Would have saved me some time, if I simply posted a link to your article :)
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I just left a comment on a week-old question that I offered a solution for with no feedback at all from the OP...and it's not the first time. The only time I goto QA is usually on the weekends when it gets boring here. :) An interesting question might be 'how many questions have you personally asked in a forum/qa?' I've been here for 11 years and have posted (without looking) maybe 2 questions. Why so few? It's rare that I can't find what I'm looking for without bothering a bunch of strangers who probably have better things to do. I also wouldn't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, but it should be done as a last resort. C'mon, everyone should know how google works in this day and age. I don't know about others, but I stay away from homework questions. That's what instructors/aides/tutors are paid for. :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
kmoorevs wrote:
I've been here for 11 years and have posted (without looking) may'be 2 questions. Why so few? I
Hi, this is not intended as a "trick" question: have you asked questions on StackOverflow during this time period ? I would interpret your few questions posted on QA here as being possibly correlated with: 1. you had a good technical education, or you self-educated with focus and direction. specifically: you learned the art/skill of debugging, and you learned some-kind-of-SOLID organizing principle for development. 2. you have natural analytic and logical problem-solving skills. 3. you have a work/study ethos that emphasizes self-reliance. you're willing to bear down, and work through frustration. Hypothetically, I would say you are far from the average QA poster here. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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This was intended to be a humorous discussion, but I clearly failed in that regard. Based on the responses, I seem to have unintentionally touched a nerve. Since I can't simply delete the post, and I do believe in transparency, I'll leave it unedited below. Needless to say, I won't be collating responses. I'll just take my lumps and move on...lesson learned :) --- Original Message --- I've been lurking around the CodeProject's Q&A forums a little bit lately and noticing a few trends. I thought it might be fun to share pet peeves...I'm coming down with a case of them lately :) I truly don't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, so please be nice, keep it general, and don't call out anyone by name. Remember we all started out needing to learn. So, to get it started, here are some of my pet peeves. What are yours? "it didn't work" - Help us. What was "it"? And, how did it fail to meet your expectations? "nothing happened" - Really, nothing? Could you please be less specific? "help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :) Also...no quote here, but the purity police rush in, leave an opinion, and utterly fail to answer the question. I am curious to hear your experiences. In a few days, if there is any interest, I'll try to collate and rank similar observations. Also, what's the consensus? Should I simply edit this post to include the results? Or, should I make a new post with the results?
One of my personal favorites is "I am new to ...". And regarding the strange responses to your question: the Lounge has very restricted list of allowed activities, mostly "CCC", "I was sent this" and links to YouTube videos. Your post is not in this list, so ... lesson learned.
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Regarding your addendum I wouldn't take the responses to your post too much to heart. You may be a little innocent regarding the general tenor of the lounge - probably been too busy writing articles. In response to your original post I might add that the answers given in Q&A are not always edifying.
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
pwasser wrote:
I might add that the answers given in Q& are not always edifying.
But, they are often as surreal as the questions.
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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One of my personal favorites is "I am new to ...". And regarding the strange responses to your question: the Lounge has very restricted list of allowed activities, mostly "CCC", "I was sent this" and links to YouTube videos. Your post is not in this list, so ... lesson learned.
Member 11917640 wrote:
the Lounge has very restricted list of allowed activities, mostly "CCC", "I was sent this" and links to YouTube videos.
I suggest you test the air you are breathing in your Lounge for nano-particles of reindeer piss with traces of amanita muscaria.
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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Eric Lynch wrote:
"help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :)
If it is urgent, call 911. Anything else can wait until tomorrow.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
"help urgently needed"
Google translates this to "I have to hand it in as my homework this morning".
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This was intended to be a humorous discussion, but I clearly failed in that regard. Based on the responses, I seem to have unintentionally touched a nerve. Since I can't simply delete the post, and I do believe in transparency, I'll leave it unedited below. Needless to say, I won't be collating responses. I'll just take my lumps and move on...lesson learned :) --- Original Message --- I've been lurking around the CodeProject's Q&A forums a little bit lately and noticing a few trends. I thought it might be fun to share pet peeves...I'm coming down with a case of them lately :) I truly don't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, so please be nice, keep it general, and don't call out anyone by name. Remember we all started out needing to learn. So, to get it started, here are some of my pet peeves. What are yours? "it didn't work" - Help us. What was "it"? And, how did it fail to meet your expectations? "nothing happened" - Really, nothing? Could you please be less specific? "help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :) Also...no quote here, but the purity police rush in, leave an opinion, and utterly fail to answer the question. I am curious to hear your experiences. In a few days, if there is any interest, I'll try to collate and rank similar observations. Also, what's the consensus? Should I simply edit this post to include the results? Or, should I make a new post with the results?
Pet peeves (not in "Peevishness" order): - Posting your homework question verbatim, and nothing else. - Posting your whole application and expecting us to work out what bit is faulty. - "It doesn't work" as the whole error description - SQL Injection prone code. - Code which is clearly copy'n'pasted from SO, hit with a hammer and still doesn't do exactly what is wanted. - Posting all in uppercase so I'll REALLY NOTICE IT AND ANSWER IT MORE QUICKLY. - Bumping your question because it hasn't been answered for a couple of hours. Or minutes in some cases. - Reposting the same question over and over because you didn't like the answer. - Spending half an hour answering a question, getting a response from the OP and being unable to respond because somebody voted the question closed because they didn't understand it. - Messages saying "My answer is much better than yours, you should look at it" - People who get rude because we won't do their homework. - People who are used to Mummy doing everything for them if they order them to, scream, and shout, and expecting it to work on me. - People who post an answer without actually trying it ...
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Member 11917640 wrote:
the Lounge has very restricted list of allowed activities, mostly "CCC", "I was sent this" and links to YouTube videos.
I suggest you test the air you are breathing in your Lounge for nano-particles of reindeer piss with traces of amanita muscaria.
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
BillWoodruff wrote:
I suggest you test the air you are breathing ...
Just confirms what I am talking about. Should I care about by brilliant member status?
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Fun stuff...I was checking out your articles. One of them is almost spot-on for a Q&A I recently tried to help with...getting a place name from a postal code. As with your article, I recommended GeoNames to the OP. Would have saved me some time, if I simply posted a link to your article :)
That was my first article on CodeProject; there's a more modern version by another member - GeoNames .NET WCF Client[^]
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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This was intended to be a humorous discussion, but I clearly failed in that regard. Based on the responses, I seem to have unintentionally touched a nerve. Since I can't simply delete the post, and I do believe in transparency, I'll leave it unedited below. Needless to say, I won't be collating responses. I'll just take my lumps and move on...lesson learned :) --- Original Message --- I've been lurking around the CodeProject's Q&A forums a little bit lately and noticing a few trends. I thought it might be fun to share pet peeves...I'm coming down with a case of them lately :) I truly don't want to discourage anyone from posting questions, so please be nice, keep it general, and don't call out anyone by name. Remember we all started out needing to learn. So, to get it started, here are some of my pet peeves. What are yours? "it didn't work" - Help us. What was "it"? And, how did it fail to meet your expectations? "nothing happened" - Really, nothing? Could you please be less specific? "help urgently needed" - What makes it urgent? Should I rush to help? :) Also...no quote here, but the purity police rush in, leave an opinion, and utterly fail to answer the question. I am curious to hear your experiences. In a few days, if there is any interest, I'll try to collate and rank similar observations. Also, what's the consensus? Should I simply edit this post to include the results? Or, should I make a new post with the results?
Having someone down-vote your answer after the OP makes changes to his question which renders your answer invalid. Having someone down-vote your answer because you gave a solution to a homework question. Having someone down-vote your answer because you vocalized a snarky response that everyone else wishes they had the balls to say themselves.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
BillWoodruff wrote:
I suggest you test the air you are breathing ...
Just confirms what I am talking about. Should I care about by brilliant member status?
Member 11917640 wrote:
Just confirms what I am talking about.
"When you walk around with a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
Member 11917640 wrote:
Should I care about by brilliant member status?
If the brilliance is too blinding, put on the same glasses you wear on the glacier when you go after reindeer. :)
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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Having someone down-vote your answer after the OP makes changes to his question which renders your answer invalid. Having someone down-vote your answer because you gave a solution to a homework question. Having someone down-vote your answer because you vocalized a snarky response that everyone else wishes they had the balls to say themselves.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Watching John Simmons behave like someone whose prom date just jilted them because he got down-voted. :)
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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Pet peeves (not in "Peevishness" order): - Posting your homework question verbatim, and nothing else. - Posting your whole application and expecting us to work out what bit is faulty. - "It doesn't work" as the whole error description - SQL Injection prone code. - Code which is clearly copy'n'pasted from SO, hit with a hammer and still doesn't do exactly what is wanted. - Posting all in uppercase so I'll REALLY NOTICE IT AND ANSWER IT MORE QUICKLY. - Bumping your question because it hasn't been answered for a couple of hours. Or minutes in some cases. - Reposting the same question over and over because you didn't like the answer. - Spending half an hour answering a question, getting a response from the OP and being unable to respond because somebody voted the question closed because they didn't understand it. - Messages saying "My answer is much better than yours, you should look at it" - People who get rude because we won't do their homework. - People who are used to Mummy doing everything for them if they order them to, scream, and shout, and expecting it to work on me. - People who post an answer without actually trying it ...
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The secret to answering homework questions is to provide an answer that uses advanced techniques that you're pretty sure the OP wouldn't have already been taught, and hope that if he uses your answer, the instructor will be able to determine that the student got his answer off the internet somewhere, and even better, mark the student down for not working it out on his own.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
What CP needs is an AI that automatically responds to "peeve" questions, particularly homework questions, so we never see them. ;) Imagine the marketing potential -- a few tweaks, and it could filter out and answer 90% of the questions your SO asks! Alexa 2.0: "I'd be happy to answer that question..." :laugh:
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Yeah, the first filter would be if the user ID starts with "Member", with a rep points value less than 500, and the user is from India.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Having someone down-vote your answer after the OP makes changes to his question which renders your answer invalid. Having someone down-vote your answer because you gave a solution to a homework question. Having someone down-vote your answer because you vocalized a snarky response that everyone else wishes they had the balls to say themselves.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Having someone down-vote your answer because you vocalized a snarky response that everyone else wishes they had the balls to say themselves has the sensible reaction to keep to themselves.
This one is easily remedied. :) Are you really surprised that a snarky answer would get downvoted? :confused:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
