Paper & Pencil...
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Yes, and not just in the office. A paper notepad during meetings (mindmaps mostly), adding notes or comments to any printed material. Outside the office there is a moleskine for notes, and a "dry erase marker" on the toilet to write on the toilet-door. Any door is a whiteboard :)
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Moleskine makes the best field notebooks I've ever used. I love the perforated ones, fantastic for leader books.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Do you use them during your workday? Or are you all digital?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
You forgot to mention the blessed whiteboard: the best place to visualize designs and realize when you're being stupid.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Moleskine makes the best field notebooks I've ever used. I love the perforated ones, fantastic for leader books.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Are we to believe all that, you are retired remember :-\
Oh no is Mike above 35 :-D
With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Ah, you're a mathematician.
No, I'm a joke thief :)
Ah, but we're all that! :laugh:
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You forgot to mention the blessed whiteboard: the best place to visualize designs and realize when you're being stupid.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
I just came back from a discount store nearby and bought one for the reason to make notes :)
With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart
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Do you use them during your workday? Or are you all digital?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
I've replaced my pen/pencil usage during work by about 99%. For quick bits such as jotting down info from a voice mail, I pull up notepad and type the relevant details like numbers, then delete it after the fact. In meetings, I have a 13" HP Spectre x360 convertable, digital pen, and OneNote for taking notes. I don't use the handwriting to text feature, better than it used to be but still completely useless. Previously used paper and pen to do the same but I never copied them into any digital format so organizing them for future use didn't happen and after a dozen pads of paper it was a stack of unsearchable data. For information recall and parsing out the useless details, I personally find it is better to hand write notes instead of typing them. Many of the studies being conducted on memory retention back me up.
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Do you use them during your workday? Or are you all digital?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
All the best stuff is paper (scrap) and pen. Shopping Lists, phone numbers, other real-life content: To begin with, it's much more portable. Actually, that's pretty much good enough! Some development stuff, too. I've tried to make text-editor checklists and stuff, but so far they seem to just persist endlessly in the editor, where I have to decide whether to keep them or not, and if I do keep them (=save file), where, so I don't end up with a shyte-load of old scrap files. One problem, however, is it's hard to keep cleaning the marker off of my monitors.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I have a (much) younger work colleague who brings her laptop to every meeting and takes notes during the meetings. Trouble is she is one of "those" typists who seem to make more noise than an elephanting elephant! Half the time the noise of her typing drowns out the speaker, and gods help us all if we're using a squawkbox on a dial-in. I'd suggest to her to bring a pad and pen but she's a "clicker" too :mad: Wouldn't mind so much if she actually shared the notes with us :laugh:
CHill60 wrote:
I'd suggest to her to bring a pad and pen but she's a "clicker" too :mad:
This is why I never buy click pens! I fidget so the click part is just too tempting. Makes it worse when I actively resist clicking because then I don't pay attention to the meeting!
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Do you use them during your workday? Or are you all digital?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I am surprised by how many of my younger work mates come to meetings, presentations and brainstorming carrying an old style paper notebook. When I was that age, 15-20 years ago, noone wanted to be seen in a meeting room without a portable; that would mark you as pre-cambrium. Nowadays, it is no longer necessary to emphasize your modernness to the same degree. Obviously, everybody has smartphones, with more processing and storage capabilities than the old portable. But they are not as good for jotting down notes (certainly not if you have got big hands!), and not for curves and similar sketches. So the notebook is a nice supplement to the smartphone.
Even something that can handle so-called "digital ink" (as much as I despise the term) such as Microsoft's Surface, in combination with software that is designed specifically for it, really isn't all that great. I'd still rather carry pen and paper for those occasions. And although the camera might be useful for taking a picture of someone's whiteboard scribbling...the result leaves a lot to be desired.
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You forgot to mention the blessed whiteboard: the best place to visualize designs and realize when you're being stupid.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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My problem with whiteboards is that I'll write something down and leave it there for months. After that much time, so-called "dry erase markers" might as well be permanent markers...
Rubbing alcohol can be your friend, but only if your office is well ventilated.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Do you use them during your workday? Or are you all digital?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
I use pen & paper all the time. Any paper that comes off the printer that is not claimed goes into my "scratch" pile.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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My problem with whiteboards is that I'll write something down and leave it there for months. After that much time, so-called "dry erase markers" might as well be permanent markers...
dandy72 wrote:
After that much time, so-called "dry erase markers" might as well be permanent markers...
Write over the dried marker with a fresh one and it should wipe right off.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Rubbing alcohol can be your friend, but only if your office is well ventilated.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
Effective in the short term but will eventually render the board useless. The alcohol destroys the lubricating layer of the board. Best to use a whiteboard cleaner that doubles as a conditioner.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Effective in the short term but will eventually render the board useless. The alcohol destroys the lubricating layer of the board. Best to use a whiteboard cleaner that doubles as a conditioner.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
Pro tip, thanks!
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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I am surprised by how many of my younger work mates come to meetings, presentations and brainstorming carrying an old style paper notebook. When I was that age, 15-20 years ago, noone wanted to be seen in a meeting room without a portable; that would mark you as pre-cambrium. Nowadays, it is no longer necessary to emphasize your modernness to the same degree. Obviously, everybody has smartphones, with more processing and storage capabilities than the old portable. But they are not as good for jotting down notes (certainly not if you have got big hands!), and not for curves and similar sketches. So the notebook is a nice supplement to the smartphone.
It's a matter of great irony to me that in many of the meetings I get invited to, I'm the only one who arrives completely naked - no laptop or [electronic] tablet. Most of those meetings I'll be the only computer/software-type there. I carry a small paper tablet and a pen[^], along with my reading glasses. Yes I'm old, dammit, now get the :elephant: off my lawn!
Software Zen:
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Do you use them during your workday? Or are you all digital?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Yes.
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Effective in the short term but will eventually render the board useless. The alcohol destroys the lubricating layer of the board. Best to use a whiteboard cleaner that doubles as a conditioner.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
David Crow wrote:
Best to use a whiteboard cleaner that doubles as a conditioner.
This is starting to sound like a shampoo commercial. :-D Actually, my best solution for dry-erase marker that won't go away is to draw on top of the existing marks, and immediately erase, while the new marks still haven't yet dried. You might go through a lot of ink, but I've salvaged an otherwise pretty much ruined whiteboard using that method.
