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I went to the soapbox to find lively conversation and found crickets

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    CAGW is bullshit, period. ERBE vs climate models[^]

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    Lost User
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    Ah yes, MM said it so it must be the truth.

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      That's not what the world thinks :)

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      Ah, so which 'Earth' in 'Earth Radiation Budget Experiment' do you think it refers to? :)

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        Ah yes, MM said it so it must be the truth.

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        ERBE shows increasing outgoing LWR in line with increasing surface temperatures. What does that say to you?

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          Ah, so which 'Earth' in 'Earth Radiation Budget Experiment' do you think it refers to? :)

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          A single experiment is not enough to "prove" that CAGW is not real. Knowing you, it is a biased and cherry-picked piece of text, funded by some large corporation :)

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            ERBE shows increasing outgoing LWR in line with increasing surface temperatures. What does that say to you?

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            It's just a lot of pictures with no context, so it says nothing to me.

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            • L Lost User

              Foothill wrote:

              It's time to go back to reporting the facts and without personal bias or opinions.

              If it is reporting, it is biased. And if it is a Hollywood-movie, the bad guys are Russian, with a "Poeshkin" as the leader, or they're arabs. In what era did we have news that was only based on facts?

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              I cannot honestly say if we ever had an era of unbiased reporting but I'm not 200 years old and read it all to know either.

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              • L Lost User

                I think a certain person may have discovered that global warming is a reality. :rolleyes:

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                Foothill
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                I would love to discuss that subject but first we have to agree on a definition of "Global Warming" before a productive discussion of the subject can commence.

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                  I cannot honestly say if we ever had an era of unbiased reporting but I'm not 200 years old and read it all to know either.

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                  I can. Everything written down was written by biased men, because we are. We have had "education" to offset that.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    I can. Everything written down was written by biased men, because we are. We have had "education" to offset that.

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    What boggles me is that some reporters and media pundits rave about certain facts and then completely ignore or even dispute other facts. You cannot cherry pick which facts you want to believe. If scientifically proven facts go against your beliefs or personal narrative, than perhaps your beliefs are wrong and you need to admit that.

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                    • F Foothill

                      I would love to discuss that subject but first we have to agree on a definition of "Global Warming" before a productive discussion of the subject can commence.

                      if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }

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                      How do you define something that does not exist? ;P

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                      • F Foothill

                        What boggles me is that some reporters and media pundits rave about certain facts and then completely ignore or even dispute other facts. You cannot cherry pick which facts you want to believe. If scientifically proven facts go against your beliefs or personal narrative, than perhaps your beliefs are wrong and you need to admit that.

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                        Foothill wrote:

                        You cannot cherry pick which facts you want to believe. If scientifically proven facts go against your beliefs or personal narrative, than perhaps your beliefs are wrong and you need to admit that.

                        Go tell that to my Catholic brothers :thumbsup: And yes, the US can push whatever narrative they like, and they do. Governing isn't science, it is politics, psychology and managing perception :)

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        • L Lost User

                          How do you define something that does not exist? ;P

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                          Foothill
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                          Well, there are things that we know for certain. 1. The mean yearly temperature of the atmosphere has been increasing over the last two decades. 2. The mean yearly temperature of ocean surface water has been increasing over the last two decades. Those are the facts. Everything else is speculation.

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                          • F Foothill

                            Well, there are things that we know for certain. 1. The mean yearly temperature of the atmosphere has been increasing over the last two decades. 2. The mean yearly temperature of ocean surface water has been increasing over the last two decades. Those are the facts. Everything else is speculation.

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                            I thought my emoji was enough to signify that I was being ironic.

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                            • L Lost User

                              How do you define something that does not exist? ;P

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                              Le centriste
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                              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                              How do you define something that does not exist?

                              It is our third heat wave here (usually we get one). In 2015, golf courses re-open on Dec. 24, a thing never saw before. I don't know if GW exists, but there sure are more evidence for it than the existence of God.

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                              • F Foothill

                                Been a little quiet in here the last couple of days. Seems a little odd.

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Cricket is a terrible sport. I don't get it.

                                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                • F Foothill

                                  Been a little quiet in here the last couple of days. Seems a little odd.

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                                  Ya, ain't it kinda nice! No one grinding an axe!

                                  History is the joke the living play on the dead.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Ah yes, MM said it so it must be the truth.

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                                    Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                    Ah yes, MM said it so it must be the truth.

                                    Hey! That's me and I said no such thinh. He's fatboy.

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      I thought my emoji was enough to signify that I was being ironic.

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                                      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                      I thought my emoji was enough to signify that I was being ironic.

                                      Alannis? Is that you?

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                        How do you define something that does not exist?

                                        It is our third heat wave here (usually we get one). In 2015, golf courses re-open on Dec. 24, a thing never saw before. I don't know if GW exists, but there sure are more evidence for it than the existence of God.

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                                        The Centrist wrote:

                                        I don't know if GW exists,

                                        Of course he does, he just retired 10 years ago.

                                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          A single experiment is not enough to "prove" that CAGW is not real. Knowing you, it is a biased and cherry-picked piece of text, funded by some large corporation :)

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          This one is. It shows an increase in out going long wave radiation as the surface warmed. This means the warming at the surface is not coming from retained long wave radiation, the mechanism by which the greenhouse works. Energy in = Energy out + Energy stored. The sole energy source is the sun. If Energy out and Energy stored (surface temp) have gone up, then it can only have come from the sun. ( Disclaimer: This doesnt mean that CO2 isnt a GH gas, and doesnt mean mankind has had some effect on temperature)

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