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It is a great day in Canada

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  • L Le centriste

    Pot is finally legal.

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    Lost User
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    I saw on TV one reporter going around and interviewing various stoned individuals 7 am in the morning. That's progress I guess.

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    • L Lost User

      I saw on TV one reporter going around and interviewing various stoned individuals 7 am in the morning. That's progress I guess.

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      Le centriste
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      They were stoned? I think it is more that they wanted to be there first, sort of "making history". I doubt there will be "stoners" every morning at 7am.

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      • L Le centriste

        They were stoned? I think it is more that they wanted to be there first, sort of "making history". I doubt there will be "stoners" every morning at 7am.

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        They were so mellow and relaxed, Canadian stereotype on steroids :) [let me find a link to it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QmRZ4j0uW4)

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        • L Lost User

          They were so mellow and relaxed, Canadian stereotype on steroids :) [let me find a link to it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QmRZ4j0uW4)

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          Le centriste
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          Sitalkes wrote:

          Canadian stereotype on steroids

          :laugh:

          Sitalkes wrote:

          let me find a link to it

          No need, I saw the same thing as you did.

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          • L Le centriste

            Pot is finally legal.

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            It is a boring and introspective drug that leaves your brain like mush.

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            • L Le centriste

              Pot is finally legal.

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              Enjoy the massive wave of societal problems that just around the corner :thumbsup:

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              • F F ES Sitecore

                Enjoy the massive wave of societal problems that just around the corner :thumbsup:

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                Le centriste
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                What kind of problems? It is not like Cannabis did not exist before. And now people will stop ending with a criminal record just for having pot with them. Thinking about it, the societal problems will be less.

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                • L Le centriste

                  What kind of problems? It is not like Cannabis did not exist before. And now people will stop ending with a criminal record just for having pot with them. Thinking about it, the societal problems will be less.

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                  Bookmark this thread with a reminder to revisit in five years and tell us how legalising cannabis has turned out for you :thumbsup:

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                    Bookmark this thread with a reminder to revisit in five years and tell us how legalising cannabis has turned out for you :thumbsup:

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                    Le centriste
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                    You do it too.

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                    • L Le centriste

                      Pot is finally legal.

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                      dandy72
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                      [This](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45806255) BBC article discusses this at a high level (see what I did there?). Here's one quote from it making an argument I've been hearing for months:

                      Concerns remain, including about the readiness for police forces to tackle drug impaired driving.

                      How does this argument even make sense? Impaired driving has never been legal, and that is not changing today. So how has this been handled until now? Are they suggesting that police forces, all this time, have never been able to "tackle drug impaired driving"? In what manner are they "not ready" for something that's remaining the same?

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                      • L Le centriste

                        You do it too.

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                        How will I know what the problems are in Canada? You think they're actually going to report them? And admit their great experiment has been nothing but a massive failure?

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                        • L Le centriste

                          Pot is finally legal.

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                          Now tax it! Why not? They tax alcohol & tobacco, so why not tax (and regulate / control the purity of) drugs as well. In fact, make teh whole lot legal, and tax 'em. The TV adverts would be interesting ... :laugh: In all seriousness, making it legal improves the quality for users and massively reduces costs for police forces who spend far, far too much time dealing with minor possession charges. And no, I don't use drugs - and haven't for twenty or more years.

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                            [This](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45806255) BBC article discusses this at a high level (see what I did there?). Here's one quote from it making an argument I've been hearing for months:

                            Concerns remain, including about the readiness for police forces to tackle drug impaired driving.

                            How does this argument even make sense? Impaired driving has never been legal, and that is not changing today. So how has this been handled until now? Are they suggesting that police forces, all this time, have never been able to "tackle drug impaired driving"? In what manner are they "not ready" for something that's remaining the same?

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                            They made the same argument here. I think they are afraid that people will think "since cannabis is legal, driving stoned is also legal".

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                              How will I know what the problems are in Canada? You think they're actually going to report them? And admit their great experiment has been nothing but a massive failure?

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                              F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                              experiment

                              It is not an experiment.

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                                Now tax it! Why not? They tax alcohol & tobacco, so why not tax (and regulate / control the purity of) drugs as well. In fact, make teh whole lot legal, and tax 'em. The TV adverts would be interesting ... :laugh: In all seriousness, making it legal improves the quality for users and massively reduces costs for police forces who spend far, far too much time dealing with minor possession charges. And no, I don't use drugs - and haven't for twenty or more years.

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                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                Now tax it!

                                I think they are already doing that.

                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                In all seriousness, making it legal improves the quality for users and massively reduces costs for police forces who spend far, far too much time dealing with minor possession charges.

                                That is the whole point. And they are selling it at half the cost of the black market, with verified quality.

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                                • L Le centriste

                                  What kind of problems? It is not like Cannabis did not exist before. And now people will stop ending with a criminal record just for having pot with them. Thinking about it, the societal problems will be less.

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                                  dandy72
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                                  Personally, it's not so much that I'm in favor of legalizing its use as much as I'm in favor of decriminalizing it. I don't think it's in an 18-year old's interest to get a criminal record for simple possession, when said record automatically disqualifies people from many decent jobs no matter what. That hurts society in the long run, IMO. Trudeau's attempts to justify his position would be made a lot easier if only he'd make it public that it costs nearly $120K to keep someone in jail for a year in Canada. [This](https://torontosun.com/2014/03/18/federal-inmate-cost-soars-to-177gs-each-per-year/wcm/bad4ba76-735d-4b63-8a07-3f4f95e69fc4) is a Toronto Sun article from 4 years ago that came up with this amount. More recent articles put the figure even higher. How many years should a pot-head work at a poorly-paying job before that debt gets repaid in taxes?

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                                  • L Le centriste

                                    They made the same argument here. I think they are afraid that people will think "since cannabis is legal, driving stoned is also legal".

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                                    dandy72
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                                    Are people that stupid, or do they only think that's the case? I think it's fair to say most people realize driving impaired isn't legal, no matter what that impairment is caused by (or am I too generous again when it comes to people's judgment?)

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                                    • L Le centriste

                                      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                      experiment

                                      It is not an experiment.

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                                      No, it's a ****ing disaster.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Now tax it! Why not? They tax alcohol & tobacco, so why not tax (and regulate / control the purity of) drugs as well. In fact, make teh whole lot legal, and tax 'em. The TV adverts would be interesting ... :laugh: In all seriousness, making it legal improves the quality for users and massively reduces costs for police forces who spend far, far too much time dealing with minor possession charges. And no, I don't use drugs - and haven't for twenty or more years.

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                                        dandy72
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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        Now tax it!

                                        You think they're not already doing that? Current estimates place the figure at $400M in the first year alone.

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                                        • D dandy72

                                          [This](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45806255) BBC article discusses this at a high level (see what I did there?). Here's one quote from it making an argument I've been hearing for months:

                                          Concerns remain, including about the readiness for police forces to tackle drug impaired driving.

                                          How does this argument even make sense? Impaired driving has never been legal, and that is not changing today. So how has this been handled until now? Are they suggesting that police forces, all this time, have never been able to "tackle drug impaired driving"? In what manner are they "not ready" for something that's remaining the same?

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                                          dandy72 wrote:

                                          How does this argument even make sense?

                                          The problem is one of proof. We have tests for how much alcohol is in someone's system and we can set legal limits, but not so for other drugs. In fact the UK has only recently started using road-side drug detection kits so the tech is getting there but it's nowhere near as easy as telling if someone is "too drunk" to drive.

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