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It is a great day in Canada

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  • L Le centriste

    What disaster is it? I don't see any disaster? How about states where it is legal since many years? Any disaster there?

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    F ES Sitecore
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    The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

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    • D dandy72

      So again - since people have had cars and have been allowed on public roads, the police haven't been in a position to charge someone with impaired driving when they're high? I'm still not buying it. They have the means.

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      Laws need definition. How do you "define" if someone is impaired if you can't objectively measure or detect it? People driving while impaired from drugs *is* a big problem and the police often can't do anything about it. And of course it's not just the dope-heads driving while under the influence, their brains are so addled and useless they'll still be a danger even when not under the influence.

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      • F F ES Sitecore

        The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

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        Le centriste
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        F-ES Sitecore wrote:

        The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it.

        Sorry, I don't see any. It is probably only in your head.

        F-ES Sitecore wrote:

        Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

        Care to share examples? Don't show examples of people on drugs throwing up on the streets. We can see that in every country, legal or not. And remember, this is just pot. Other drugs are still illegal.

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        • L Lost User

          They were so mellow and relaxed, Canadian stereotype on steroids :) [let me find a link to it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QmRZ4j0uW4)

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          MarkTJohnson
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          Shouldn't be stereotypes on weed?

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          • L Le centriste

            Pot is finally legal.

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            GuyThiebaut
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            I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to sleep. I never once had the desire to take up the habit when I saw the effect it had on them. That said - there are apparently beneficial aspects for some medical conditions and it's probably a good thing that people who can benefit from it, as a medicine, will not need to visit their doctor or as in the case of the UK not have previously had access to it.

            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

            ― Christopher Hitchens

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            • G GuyThiebaut

              I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to sleep. I never once had the desire to take up the habit when I saw the effect it had on them. That said - there are apparently beneficial aspects for some medical conditions and it's probably a good thing that people who can benefit from it, as a medicine, will not need to visit their doctor or as in the case of the UK not have previously had access to it.

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              Le centriste
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              GuyThiebaut wrote:

              I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to slee

              Sure, everybody will start doing just that. I am an occasional pot smoker. I smoke mostly on weekends, and not every weekend. Like many of my friends, who hold very good paying jobs and perform very well. Do not take your only experience with a heavy pot smoker to generalize.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                Very Large Brain wrote:

                but many of them don't even practice their religion.

                OK. But you are still dodging the actual question. How does religion prevent you from being a free thinker?

                Very Large Brain wrote:

                a registered Christian.

                Not sure what that means. Do you mean a member of a Christian church or do you actually have to register with the government?

                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                Lost User
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                ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                How does religion prevent you from being a free thinker?

                Can't speak for the other religions, but you are to think as the pope mandates. Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                • L Le centriste

                  GuyThiebaut wrote:

                  I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to slee

                  Sure, everybody will start doing just that. I am an occasional pot smoker. I smoke mostly on weekends, and not every weekend. Like many of my friends, who hold very good paying jobs and perform very well. Do not take your only experience with a heavy pot smoker to generalize.

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                  GuyThiebaut
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                  What makes you think I was generalising? Did you read what I wrote rather than read into what I wrote?

                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                    ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                    How does religion prevent you from being a free thinker?

                    Can't speak for the other religions, but you are to think as the pope mandates. Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Can't speak for the other religions

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Religion is accepting

                    Then don't.

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    but you are to think as the pope mandates.

                    That's Catholics only. And I don't know if it's true or not.

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

                    How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    • G GuyThiebaut

                      What makes you think I was generalising? Did you read what I wrote rather than read into what I wrote?

                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                      Le centriste
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                      GuyThiebaut wrote:

                      What makes you think I was generalising?

                      Why even mentioning then? I thought you wanted to make some kind of point.

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                      • D dandy72

                        [This](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45806255) BBC article discusses this at a high level (see what I did there?). Here's one quote from it making an argument I've been hearing for months:

                        Concerns remain, including about the readiness for police forces to tackle drug impaired driving.

                        How does this argument even make sense? Impaired driving has never been legal, and that is not changing today. So how has this been handled until now? Are they suggesting that police forces, all this time, have never been able to "tackle drug impaired driving"? In what manner are they "not ready" for something that's remaining the same?

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        dandy72 wrote:

                        for something that's remaining the same?

                        I imagine the number of high drivers will increase now that it is legal. So, no, I don't think it is remaining the same.

                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        • G GuyThiebaut

                          What makes you think I was generalising? Did you read what I wrote rather than read into what I wrote?

                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          GuyThiebaut wrote:

                          What makes you think I was generalising?

                          He's high right now. :-\

                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            Can't speak for the other religions

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            Religion is accepting

                            Then don't.

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            but you are to think as the pope mandates.

                            That's Catholics only. And I don't know if it's true or not.

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

                            How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            Forogar
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                            1. At the time that Christ supposedly lived, anyone who was left-handed was assumed to be evil. 2. After reading the bible from cover to cover (I really have: some fun stuff, a bit predictable in parts, should make a good series of fantasy action movies) I did not find any mention of this Christ person supporting left-handed rights or that left-handed people were not evil. How do you live with yourself having this hypocritical, lefty... should we call it "life-style"?

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            • Z ZurdoDev

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              The same biological reaction as when eating spicy food.

                              Except the pain comes later. :-\

                              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              Forogar
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                              ...and not in your head!

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              • F F ES Sitecore

                                The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

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                                Forogar
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                                Quote:

                                The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Illegalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

                                FTFY

                                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Now tax it! Why not? They tax alcohol & tobacco, so why not tax (and regulate / control the purity of) drugs as well. In fact, make teh whole lot legal, and tax 'em. The TV adverts would be interesting ... :laugh: In all seriousness, making it legal improves the quality for users and massively reduces costs for police forces who spend far, far too much time dealing with minor possession charges. And no, I don't use drugs - and haven't for twenty or more years.

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                                  Forogar
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                                  I completely agree - and have never used drugs except Paracetamol (Tylenol in the USA) and Penicillin.

                                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                  • F Forogar

                                    1. At the time that Christ supposedly lived, anyone who was left-handed was assumed to be evil. 2. After reading the bible from cover to cover (I really have: some fun stuff, a bit predictable in parts, should make a good series of fantasy action movies) I did not find any mention of this Christ person supporting left-handed rights or that left-handed people were not evil. How do you live with yourself having this hypocritical, lefty... should we call it "life-style"?

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    Forogar wrote:

                                    should we call it "life-style"?

                                    It's a life choice, silly. Try it if you are cool enough.

                                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                    • F Forogar

                                      ...and not in your head!

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      ZurdoDev
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                                      Forogar wrote:

                                      and not in your head!

                                      I didn't want to spell it out but then you dumped that on us. Thanks a lot.

                                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        Forogar wrote:

                                        should we call it "life-style"?

                                        It's a life choice, silly. Try it if you are cool enough.

                                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        Hey, let's see if we can get 1000 replies on this particular thread tree. You guys have a great start going. :-D Pretty soon, it will loop back to the left side of the page. :thumbsup:

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                                          Hey, let's see if we can get 1000 replies on this particular thread tree. You guys have a great start going. :-D Pretty soon, it will loop back to the left side of the page. :thumbsup:

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Slacker007 wrote:

                                          1000 replies

                                          1000 in binary? That shouldn't be too hard. :-D

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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