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  • L Le centriste

    Pot is finally legal.

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    GuyThiebaut
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    I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to sleep. I never once had the desire to take up the habit when I saw the effect it had on them. That said - there are apparently beneficial aspects for some medical conditions and it's probably a good thing that people who can benefit from it, as a medicine, will not need to visit their doctor or as in the case of the UK not have previously had access to it.

    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

    ― Christopher Hitchens

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      I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to sleep. I never once had the desire to take up the habit when I saw the effect it had on them. That said - there are apparently beneficial aspects for some medical conditions and it's probably a good thing that people who can benefit from it, as a medicine, will not need to visit their doctor or as in the case of the UK not have previously had access to it.

      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

      ― Christopher Hitchens

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      Le centriste
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      GuyThiebaut wrote:

      I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to slee

      Sure, everybody will start doing just that. I am an occasional pot smoker. I smoke mostly on weekends, and not every weekend. Like many of my friends, who hold very good paying jobs and perform very well. Do not take your only experience with a heavy pot smoker to generalize.

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      • Z ZurdoDev

        Very Large Brain wrote:

        but many of them don't even practice their religion.

        OK. But you are still dodging the actual question. How does religion prevent you from being a free thinker?

        Very Large Brain wrote:

        a registered Christian.

        Not sure what that means. Do you mean a member of a Christian church or do you actually have to register with the government?

        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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        Lost User
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        ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

        How does religion prevent you from being a free thinker?

        Can't speak for the other religions, but you are to think as the pope mandates. Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        • L Le centriste

          GuyThiebaut wrote:

          I lived with someone who smoked skunk throughout the day from the moment they woke up to just before they went to slee

          Sure, everybody will start doing just that. I am an occasional pot smoker. I smoke mostly on weekends, and not every weekend. Like many of my friends, who hold very good paying jobs and perform very well. Do not take your only experience with a heavy pot smoker to generalize.

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          GuyThiebaut
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          What makes you think I was generalising? Did you read what I wrote rather than read into what I wrote?

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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            ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

            How does religion prevent you from being a free thinker?

            Can't speak for the other religions, but you are to think as the pope mandates. Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            ZurdoDev
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            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            Can't speak for the other religions

            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            Religion is accepting

            Then don't.

            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            but you are to think as the pope mandates.

            That's Catholics only. And I don't know if it's true or not.

            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

            How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            • G GuyThiebaut

              What makes you think I was generalising? Did you read what I wrote rather than read into what I wrote?

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              Le centriste
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              GuyThiebaut wrote:

              What makes you think I was generalising?

              Why even mentioning then? I thought you wanted to make some kind of point.

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              • D dandy72

                [This](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45806255) BBC article discusses this at a high level (see what I did there?). Here's one quote from it making an argument I've been hearing for months:

                Concerns remain, including about the readiness for police forces to tackle drug impaired driving.

                How does this argument even make sense? Impaired driving has never been legal, and that is not changing today. So how has this been handled until now? Are they suggesting that police forces, all this time, have never been able to "tackle drug impaired driving"? In what manner are they "not ready" for something that's remaining the same?

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                ZurdoDev
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                dandy72 wrote:

                for something that's remaining the same?

                I imagine the number of high drivers will increase now that it is legal. So, no, I don't think it is remaining the same.

                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                • G GuyThiebaut

                  What makes you think I was generalising? Did you read what I wrote rather than read into what I wrote?

                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  GuyThiebaut wrote:

                  What makes you think I was generalising?

                  He's high right now. :-\

                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Can't speak for the other religions

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Religion is accepting

                    Then don't.

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    but you are to think as the pope mandates.

                    That's Catholics only. And I don't know if it's true or not.

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

                    How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    Forogar
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                    1. At the time that Christ supposedly lived, anyone who was left-handed was assumed to be evil. 2. After reading the bible from cover to cover (I really have: some fun stuff, a bit predictable in parts, should make a good series of fantasy action movies) I did not find any mention of this Christ person supporting left-handed rights or that left-handed people were not evil. How do you live with yourself having this hypocritical, lefty... should we call it "life-style"?

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      The same biological reaction as when eating spicy food.

                      Except the pain comes later. :-\

                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      Forogar
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                      ...and not in your head!

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

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                        Forogar
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                        The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Illegalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.

                        FTFY

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Now tax it! Why not? They tax alcohol & tobacco, so why not tax (and regulate / control the purity of) drugs as well. In fact, make teh whole lot legal, and tax 'em. The TV adverts would be interesting ... :laugh: In all seriousness, making it legal improves the quality for users and massively reduces costs for police forces who spend far, far too much time dealing with minor possession charges. And no, I don't use drugs - and haven't for twenty or more years.

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                          Forogar
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                          I completely agree - and have never used drugs except Paracetamol (Tylenol in the USA) and Penicillin.

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          • F Forogar

                            1. At the time that Christ supposedly lived, anyone who was left-handed was assumed to be evil. 2. After reading the bible from cover to cover (I really have: some fun stuff, a bit predictable in parts, should make a good series of fantasy action movies) I did not find any mention of this Christ person supporting left-handed rights or that left-handed people were not evil. How do you live with yourself having this hypocritical, lefty... should we call it "life-style"?

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            Forogar wrote:

                            should we call it "life-style"?

                            It's a life choice, silly. Try it if you are cool enough.

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            • F Forogar

                              ...and not in your head!

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Forogar wrote:

                              and not in your head!

                              I didn't want to spell it out but then you dumped that on us. Thanks a lot.

                              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Forogar wrote:

                                should we call it "life-style"?

                                It's a life choice, silly. Try it if you are cool enough.

                                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Slacker007
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                                Hey, let's see if we can get 1000 replies on this particular thread tree. You guys have a great start going. :-D Pretty soon, it will loop back to the left side of the page. :thumbsup:

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                                  Hey, let's see if we can get 1000 replies on this particular thread tree. You guys have a great start going. :-D Pretty soon, it will loop back to the left side of the page. :thumbsup:

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  Slacker007 wrote:

                                  1000 replies

                                  1000 in binary? That shouldn't be too hard. :-D

                                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  • Z ZurdoDev

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    Can't speak for the other religions

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    Religion is accepting

                                    Then don't.

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    but you are to think as the pope mandates.

                                    That's Catholics only. And I don't know if it's true or not.

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    Religion is accepting fairy-tales, not "thinking".

                                    How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

                                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                    Lost User
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                                    ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                                    How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

                                    Show me one citation of this person outside of your fantasy-book. And no, religion is not philosophy. :|

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                      Very Large Brain wrote:

                                      You experienced that yourself?

                                      Of course. I went to 13 years public school and 6 years college. If you don't give the answer they want you get it wrong. But now you answer some. How does religion prevent free thinking? There are millions upon millions of religious people. Do you really believe that they are all brain-dead? Surely you can't be that arrogant.

                                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                                      If you don't give the answer they want you get it wrong

                                      Whether intended or not, there's quite some irony right there.

                                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                        ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                                        How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.

                                        Show me one citation of this person outside of your fantasy-book. And no, religion is not philosophy. :|

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        ZurdoDev
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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        Show me one citation of this person outside of your fantasy-book.

                                        Why? Nice dodge of the point, by the way. ;) Here is another one, Book of Mormon | LDS.org[^]

                                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                                          ‭011111100010‬ wrote:

                                          If you don't give the answer they want you get it wrong

                                          Whether intended or not, there's quite some irony right there.

                                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          :zzz:

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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