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Very Large Brain wrote:
You experienced that yourself?
Of course. I went to 13 years public school and 6 years college. If you don't give the answer they want you get it wrong. But now you answer some. How does religion prevent free thinking? There are millions upon millions of religious people. Do you really believe that they are all brain-dead? Surely you can't be that arrogant.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
011111100010 wrote:
If you don't give the answer they want you get it wrong
Whether intended or not, there's quite some irony right there.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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011111100010 wrote:
How so? Even Christ said if you want to know if what he is teaching is true, try it. You can't get more "thinking" than that.
Show me one citation of this person outside of your fantasy-book. And no, religion is not philosophy. :|
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Show me one citation of this person outside of your fantasy-book.
Why? Nice dodge of the point, by the way. ;) Here is another one, Book of Mormon | LDS.org[^]
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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011111100010 wrote:
If you don't give the answer they want you get it wrong
Whether intended or not, there's quite some irony right there.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Forogar wrote:
should we call it "life-style"?
It's a life choice, silly. Try it if you are cool enough.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Show me one citation of this person outside of your fantasy-book.
Why? Nice dodge of the point, by the way. ;) Here is another one, Book of Mormon | LDS.org[^]
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I do not believe the person you referenced ever existed
That still does not change the fact that the Christian religion (maybe not Catholics) challenges you to test it out, never tells you to just accept it.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
that this should not be illegal in the first place.
Why? Should it not be classified a drug?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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It is a boring and introspective drug that leaves your brain like mush.
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Yes, of course.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I do not believe the person you referenced ever existed
That still does not change the fact that the Christian religion (maybe not Catholics) challenges you to test it out, never tells you to just accept it.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
No, it doesn't. Christianity is not this "loving, give us a try, we're researchers" nonsense. The Christian religion is based on fairy-tales that already existed before, did things that other profets did, by a man not mentioned ANYWHERE in history except in the bible. And no, Christianity does not promote thinking; talking about some witch that walked on water. Next to that, nothing good comes out of religion. It should be banned in all forms, as the great evil that it is :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it.
Sorry, I don't see any. It is probably only in your head.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.
Care to share examples? Don't show examples of people on drugs throwing up on the streets. We can see that in every country, legal or not. And remember, this is just pot. Other drugs are still illegal.
Yeah, I've looked into it some more and you're right. Encouraging people to use substances that reduce your brain function, cause addiction and psychosis, and act as a gateway to harder drugs is going to have no adverse affect on society at all :rolleyes:
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The evidence is all there if you care to go and look for it. Legalisation of drugs has never done anything but harm.
Dont consider all drugs as the same. Alcohol was more of a problem when made illegal in the US (criminality + more people drank), but in general it is a safe drug. Dope tends to lead to neurotic behaviour in some. Coke is safe, till your heart packs in, at 60, but is fun till then (thus boosting GDP and fixing the pensions problem as well as saving the health service money in not having to treat old people). Speed is just cheap coke, and makes people lose weight (boosts the GDP, and fixes the type 2 diabetes problem and hence saving the health service money.) So yeah, some good and bad there. :)
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Yeah, I've looked into it some more and you're right. Encouraging people to use substances that reduce your brain function, cause addiction and psychosis, and act as a gateway to harder drugs is going to have no adverse affect on society at all :rolleyes:
Legal or not, people will smoke pot. They won't get a criminal record for doing now.
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Legal or not, people will smoke pot. They won't get a criminal record for doing now.
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No, it doesn't. Christianity is not this "loving, give us a try, we're researchers" nonsense. The Christian religion is based on fairy-tales that already existed before, did things that other profets did, by a man not mentioned ANYWHERE in history except in the bible. And no, Christianity does not promote thinking; talking about some witch that walked on water. Next to that, nothing good comes out of religion. It should be banned in all forms, as the great evil that it is :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Legal or not, people will smoke pot. They won't get a criminal record for doing now.
And now there is a high chance they will migrate to harder drugs, and people who would never get hooked on drugs before might now start. It doesn't bother me in the slightest that people get criminal records for using controlled substances because the effect is wider-reaching that the act itself and people need to realise that. Things like this send out a message that using drugs is no big deal, it's harmless and so on, and that is arguably a bigger danger than the fact that there will be even more loser pot heads shuffling around.
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Laws need definition. How do you "define" if someone is impaired if you can't objectively measure or detect it? People driving while impaired from drugs *is* a big problem and the police often can't do anything about it. And of course it's not just the dope-heads driving while under the influence, their brains are so addled and useless they'll still be a danger even when not under the influence.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
How do you "define" if someone is impaired if you can't objectively measure or detect it?
Agreed. That's the first thing that has to be defined. You're telling me it hasn't?
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
People driving while impaired from drugs *is* a big problem and the police often can't do anything about it.
That's news to me if that's true. I've never heard of a story where some pot-head was let go because a cop didn't have any proof/evidence.
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dandy72 wrote:
for something that's remaining the same?
I imagine the number of high drivers will increase now that it is legal. So, no, I don't think it is remaining the same.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
So the argument against police "readiness" has to do with the potential increase in pool size, and not how to establish whether someone is high or not. It would be easy enough for the media to explain it that way, but that's not at all how they're presenting the argument.
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So, because you do not believe it nor can understand it then it must be evil. OK. That's not crazy at all. :omg:
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
011111100010 wrote:
So, because you do not believe it nor can understand it then it must be evil.
No, that's YOUR way of magical thinking. I do not believe, I verify. I'm sick and tired of deluded people saying that religion is a good thing. Speaking untruths as if they were real, basing judgement on that. And because we can prove that the stories are utter bullshit, most Christians now no longer believe the "literal word", but choose to worship a God-of-the-Gaps (look it up). So, what good has the Church contributed? Outside some jokes on child-abuse, refusing vaccinations (because it is in Gods' hands) or explaining other people how they GO TO HELL TO SUFFER ETERNALLY* because of an abortion? *) ..but he loves you. If you are religious, my condolances. Apperently lots of people still need the crutch because reality is too scary and hard. Still doesn't give them the right to "educate" any of their nonsense to kids.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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011111100010 wrote:
So, because you do not believe it nor can understand it then it must be evil.
No, that's YOUR way of magical thinking. I do not believe, I verify. I'm sick and tired of deluded people saying that religion is a good thing. Speaking untruths as if they were real, basing judgement on that. And because we can prove that the stories are utter bullshit, most Christians now no longer believe the "literal word", but choose to worship a God-of-the-Gaps (look it up). So, what good has the Church contributed? Outside some jokes on child-abuse, refusing vaccinations (because it is in Gods' hands) or explaining other people how they GO TO HELL TO SUFFER ETERNALLY* because of an abortion? *) ..but he loves you. If you are religious, my condolances. Apperently lots of people still need the crutch because reality is too scary and hard. Still doesn't give them the right to "educate" any of their nonsense to kids.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I verify.
Exactly, which is what my first post was all about. Christianity encourages you to verify. Glad we can see eye to eye on that one.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
we can prove that the stories are utter bullshit
That's cute. Go ahead, prove them wrong. I'll wait. But I won't hold my breath.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
the Church contributed? Outside some jokes on child-abuse, refusing vaccinations (because it is in Gods' hands) or explaining other people how they GO TO HELL TO SUFFER ETERNALLY* because of an abortion?
You keep referring to the Catholic Church, not the Christian religion. Huge difference.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
still need the crutch
Again, you mock what you do not understand. That says a lot about your character.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.