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Just made a in-house research about vegetables... I found that we buy a bit less than 17 Kg of vegetables each week... The five vegetables made to the top are: 1. Cucumber 2. Zucchini (of different colors) 3. Potato 4. Carrot (of different colors) 5. Beetroot How're your vegetables?
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I enjoy teasing some parents - usually mothers about corn (i.e. maize): Popcorn was introduced in Norway approx 50 years ago, as a Saturday night snack in the same main group as ice cream and chocolate. Or a special treat in movie theaters. Something that is not very healthy, but we must allow ourself some slight "misbeaviour" every now and then. Lots of Norwegian people/parents still have the conception that popcorn and sugar sweets are equally unhealthy. So I ask these parents: Why don't you serve them maize instead? (We call it 'mais') They look back: I could never make them eat maize as a snack! Sure you can, I tell them: There are special variants that you can fry in a couple tablespoons of oil util the grain pops open and they are crispy and tasty! Add a little salt, not too much, and I am sure that they will love it! Very few parents accept that popcorn and yellow, boiled maize essentially is the same food. But it is. I must add that not one of all my friends can stand this crazy American idea of having butter dripping down on the corn to soak it with butter as it pops. Also, a major reason for popping your own is to reduce the amount of salt to a third of that in pre-popped corn. Rather, try spreading a little garlic granulate and/or ground juniper berries on it immediately after popping. Or experiment with other spices. Even though it is possible to force maize to be unhealthy, if you insist, you certainly don't have to do so!
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But both potatoes and rice are so full of carbohydrates that if you are having too high blood sugar levels, in the risk zone for developing diabetes II, you should not eat excessive amounts of either.
That risc comes more from maple sirup than from rice or potatoes. Lots of people eating just rice and beans every day, and that's a complete protein for you.
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Just made a in-house research about vegetables... I found that we buy a bit less than 17 Kg of vegetables each week... The five vegetables made to the top are: 1. Cucumber 2. Zucchini (of different colors) 3. Potato 4. Carrot (of different colors) 5. Beetroot How're your vegetables?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
In no particular order and leaving out staples like ToFu, Rice and potato (knish!) 1 - baby Bok Choi 2 - Tomato 3 - (hot) peppers - (home made hot sauce when garden dies) 4 - eggplant 5 - onion 6 - Mushrooms Mixed in with this is an assortment of frozen vegs (for cooking) which includes string beans, broccoli, corn (maize), green peas, periodic outburst of Romaine lettuce, particularly when I'm in a mood to make egg rolls.
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17 kg!? Are you feeding livestock? The wife and I would be lucky to consume 1 cucumber, 1 zucchini, 2 potatos and 2 carrots in a week. Beetroot, we don't see this often prepared in the US excepting the purple pickled variety that grows in a can. We do like lettuces, peppers, tomatos and onions. How're my vegetables? Waiting for a saute, I think.
So what ARE you eating, then? The list you present is hardly enough to provide calories for a single day! It sounds as if you are treating vegetables as a small side dish to the "real" food! If you make you main meal a vegetable soup: Start with some chicken broth (I actuall use turkey broth - every time I bake a turkey, I make 5-8 soup size portions of broth from boiling the bones), chop up carrots, onoion, leek, beets, cauliflower, ... whatever are your favorite vegetables. If you don't want to leave the table still hungry, it takes half a kilogram of vegetables per person. Maybe more, depending on how physiucally active the people are. Often, when I make a mostly-vegetable soup, I add some minced turkey meat - but almost like a spice, it makes up a minor part of the nutrition, both in proteins and calories. Or, when you make chili con carne: You really don't need that much carne! (In our canteen at work, they serve "vegetarian chili con carne", leading to so many laughs that they now have renamed it "chili sin carne") If you use a proper mix of beans, tomato, onions, and some broth to replace plain water, you can either leave the meat out completely, or use a third of what the recepie says. Again: An adult will require at least half a kilogram of rice, beans, tomatos, onion and other vegetarian ingredients to still his hunger. (OK, so rice is a grain, not a vegetable, but at least it is plant food. Tomatos are not vegetables either, but berries. So are cucumbers.) If you consider even grains OK: Serving bread with warm food is not that common in Norway, but I do - and with lots of food, whole grain breads are excellent! Tasty, you won't get hungry again for a while, and if you care for cost: As long as you bake it yourself, it is cheap. (And you should, because it should still be warm from the oven when you serve it.) Then comes the snacks: Carrot and rutabaga sticks, the pizza sauce with lots of onions and maybe other vegetables. Dark, whole grain breads with lots of spices, or filled with a spiced vegetable sauce, are eccellent as snacks. Then: The in-between meals. The carrot or whatever in your lunch bag. In my childhood, my mother made meat balls for two adults, two kids, from a quarter of a kg of hamburger... That is slighly above 60 grams/person. We were not starved: Potatoes, carrots, rutabaga, onions... with every main meal. Maybe a plain tomato or spinach soup before the main dish, and a fruit compote afterwards. (Again: Fruit is not vegetable, but certainly plant food.) We were f
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I thought mushrooms were funghi, not vegetables otherwise I would have them on my list too.
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Yes, they are funghi, which is a kingdom distinct from both animals and plants. (Biologists do not agree about the number of kingdoms - it usuall comes out as six, seven or eight.) I have read claims that funghi DNA has significantly more in common with animal DNA than with plant DNA; unfortunately, I did not save any reference. I have tried to present this to several vegans, but I have not yet succeeded in making any of them reject mushrooms for food, on those grounds.
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Just made a in-house research about vegetables... I found that we buy a bit less than 17 Kg of vegetables each week... The five vegetables made to the top are: 1. Cucumber 2. Zucchini (of different colors) 3. Potato 4. Carrot (of different colors) 5. Beetroot How're your vegetables?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Broccoli Cauliflower Potatoes, No other root "vegetables" of any kind Green Peas Uncooked Spinach, (exception my wife's "Spinach Madelaine" - see River Road Cookbook for recipe) Artichokes, hearts or stuffed Olives Whatever is on the salad bar any given day, except the aforementioned root vegetables.
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Just made a in-house research about vegetables... I found that we buy a bit less than 17 Kg of vegetables each week... The five vegetables made to the top are: 1. Cucumber 2. Zucchini (of different colors) 3. Potato 4. Carrot (of different colors) 5. Beetroot How're your vegetables?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
I recommend that you add potatoes (of different colors). They have a lot better flavor than the standard bakers. Potatos or potatoes? Tomatos or tomatoes? I noticed that you purposely wrote "potato" to avoid the controversy. I think Dan Quayle wrote the spell checker here...
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Just made a in-house research about vegetables... I found that we buy a bit less than 17 Kg of vegetables each week... The five vegetables made to the top are: 1. Cucumber 2. Zucchini (of different colors) 3. Potato 4. Carrot (of different colors) 5. Beetroot How're your vegetables?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Most of my vegetables sit in Congress and various bureaucracies.
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I thought mushrooms were funghi, not vegetables otherwise I would have them on my list too.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Garlic powder (anything except icecream)
Have you ever tried garlic ice cream using fresh garlic chips. The contrast between the cold of the ice cream and the hot zing from the raw garlic is really nice.
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A farmer gave me 20lb of garlic one time, so I threw it in the deep freezer. It seeped into almost everything. Great for the meat, not so much for the ice cream.
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You arent Russian by any chance?
NO!!! I'm worst than that - I'm a jew...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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17 kg!? Are you feeding livestock? The wife and I would be lucky to consume 1 cucumber, 1 zucchini, 2 potatos and 2 carrots in a week. Beetroot, we don't see this often prepared in the US excepting the purple pickled variety that grows in a can. We do like lettuces, peppers, tomatos and onions. How're my vegetables? Waiting for a saute, I think.
17 kg is only the average... Summer is probably higher than that... Think about it - counting only six of us for 3 meals in seven days, it is only 120 gr of vegetables... About half the meal... Not that much at all...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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NO!!! I'm worst than that - I'm a jew...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Yeah, that was pretty obvious given your name, but your list of veg looks like a typical Russian salad. :)
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Yeah, that was pretty obvious given your name, but your list of veg looks like a typical Russian salad. :)
It is maybe, because I grew up in Hungary with very few vegetables (and very expensive) in summer time... but with a lot of cheap roots in winter...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Garlic powder (anything except icecream)
Have you ever tried garlic ice cream using fresh garlic chips. The contrast between the cold of the ice cream and the hot zing from the raw garlic is really nice.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Garlic powder (anything except icecream)
Have you ever tried garlic ice cream using fresh garlic chips. The contrast between the cold of the ice cream and the hot zing from the raw garlic is really nice.
That reminds me... One of these days I'll have to pop over to Gilroy, CA for the Garlic Festival ( https://gilroygarlicfestival.com/ )
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Just made a in-house research about vegetables... I found that we buy a bit less than 17 Kg of vegetables each week... The five vegetables made to the top are: 1. Cucumber 2. Zucchini (of different colors) 3. Potato 4. Carrot (of different colors) 5. Beetroot How're your vegetables?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Interesting read of the post and the majority of replies for actual varieties consumed... And this leads to what you consider a vegetable to be, and which is the right way to go. Is it based off the scientific/biological definition OR is it what the government considers it OR is it how a cook prepares it. I am more of a scientific person; in that if it is either seed or fruit based then it is a fruit. Vegetables are not actually defined in themselves, but are considers to be "plant parts" that are not ovarian products.So in my world; cukes, squashes, tomatoes, peppers, avocados, artichokes are all fruits. One interesting plant is Coriander. Both the fruits and plant parts are edible commonly used. Confusion is prevented in the US by calling the "vegetable" portion as Cilantro or Chinese Parsley.
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That risc comes more from maple sirup than from rice or potatoes. Lots of people eating just rice and beans every day, and that's a complete protein for you.
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My doctor told me a year ago that I was moving into the "risc zone" for diabetes II, and recommended a change of eating habits. I never eat syrup, do not drink sweetened drinks (neither sugar nor artificial), very rarely sweets. But I did eat lots of rice, white pasta and potatoes. I replaced maybe 80-90% of that with vegetables, but no other significant changes. Half a year later, my doctor told me: You are on the out of the danger zone, now your blood sugar level is fine! - and it has stayed that way since. I still eat lots of vegetables, only rarely (and small portions) of potato, rice and pasta. Maybe following my doctor's advice just happened to coincide with some other reason for my long-term blood sugar levels to drop back to normal. But I can guarantee you: If so, the real reason had nothing to do with sirup of any kind, maple nor other. (Maple sirup is virtually unknown in Norway, except for those who have been spending a year or more in the USA. Don't expect to find it in every grocery store here!)
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My doctor told me a year ago that I was moving into the "risc zone" for diabetes II, and recommended a change of eating habits. I never eat syrup, do not drink sweetened drinks (neither sugar nor artificial), very rarely sweets. But I did eat lots of rice, white pasta and potatoes. I replaced maybe 80-90% of that with vegetables, but no other significant changes. Half a year later, my doctor told me: You are on the out of the danger zone, now your blood sugar level is fine! - and it has stayed that way since. I still eat lots of vegetables, only rarely (and small portions) of potato, rice and pasta. Maybe following my doctor's advice just happened to coincide with some other reason for my long-term blood sugar levels to drop back to normal. But I can guarantee you: If so, the real reason had nothing to do with sirup of any kind, maple nor other. (Maple sirup is virtually unknown in Norway, except for those who have been spending a year or more in the USA. Don't expect to find it in every grocery store here!)
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My doctor told me a year ago that I was moving into the "risc zone" for diabetes II, and recommended a change of eating habits. I never eat syrup, do not drink sweetened drinks (neither sugar nor artificial), very rarely sweets. But I did eat lots of rice, white pasta and potatoes. I replaced maybe 80-90% of that with vegetables, but no other significant changes.
Meal-sizes will also vary, and I doubt you ate the rice dry. Veggies are also better for your intestines, and having seen the prices in the supermarkets there - a whole lot better for your finances than extra meat :)
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