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Agile Project Tracking Software for the feeble minded?

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  • C charlieg

    The group I am in has been tasked with becoming "more agile." The manager, great guy, but is hardware oriented. Any recommendations for something that would support a gentle introduction to agile project management?

    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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    charlieg
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    All - I appreciate all the feedback, salty any otherwise. Been in the business long enough to have some thick skin. Living in a Dilbert world :)

    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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      The varied responses you have received so far, confirms for me what I have always believed. No on knows what "Agile" is or how to implement it. It is like trying to tackle fog. :laugh: It seems to me to be a manifesto designed to relieve the project manager, and members of all responsibility for their actions and inactions, inevitably leading to finger pointing and failure in most cases and success buy pure chance. :sigh: Project groups need all members from the top down to: accept and embrace personal responsibility, cooperate with, and help, each other, go into the project knowing that requirements will change, and be ready to put on their big boy pants and not whine about it.

      Never trust a dog with red eyebrows - Terry Pratchett (RIP)

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      I think in many respects it comes back to the Extreme Programming book I read long ago. There were two nuggets I pulled from that book. The first was "The customer does not know what they want until they see it." This tosses waterfall development on it's head and more importantly declares the fact that no one wants to admit. Second was you have 3 choices, pick two. It should be in every meeting room. Rules... any system should document when violating the pick two rule.

      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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      • C charlieg

        I think in many respects it comes back to the Extreme Programming book I read long ago. There were two nuggets I pulled from that book. The first was "The customer does not know what they want until they see it." This tosses waterfall development on it's head and more importantly declares the fact that no one wants to admit. Second was you have 3 choices, pick two. It should be in every meeting room. Rules... any system should document when violating the pick two rule.

        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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        Slow Eddie
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        Your reply certainly agrees with my 40+ years of experience. :cool:

        I don't know anymore. I just don't. Get me some coffee and I might be able to figure it out...

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        • C charlieg

          The group I am in has been tasked with becoming "more agile." The manager, great guy, but is hardware oriented. Any recommendations for something that would support a gentle introduction to agile project management?

          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          Lost User
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          Don't take on anything that you can't "complete" within 2 weeks (i.e. have "something" to show for). Anything longer, and it says you're out of control.

          "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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          • C charlieg

            The group I am in has been tasked with becoming "more agile." The manager, great guy, but is hardware oriented. Any recommendations for something that would support a gentle introduction to agile project management?

            Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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            ajhampson
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            We use Visual Studio Team Services, now Azure DevOps [^]. It's essentially the online version of TFS. You can create projects as either Agile or Scrum. Lots of visual, drag and drop support and it directly links stories, tasks, bugs, etc. to TFS/VSTS repository check-ins.

            Left-handed in a right-handed world....

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              Sumuj John wrote:

              Agile by itself is for feeble minded manager

              Then you're doing it wrong.

              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              you're doing it wrong

              We Nah. It proves to us more "How I manager the person" than "How I manage the work and product".Those who evangelist Agile, we let them to work in fitness companies such as LA, Planet fitness. We also give them our wishes and recommendation. No more toleration for Daily standup, Lean Manifestation ...

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