Has this ever happened to you?
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A co-worker just got let go. Not unsual in this day and age, unfortunately. For me, this one was different in that it was my office "room-mate". It was without a doubt the most uncomfortable experience I have had in a long, long time (maybe ever). Watching her pack her boxes while crying and trying to call her husband was gut-wrenching. I'm sure that I'm not the only one this has happened to, but I was wondering what other people did in this situation. I'm really at a loss. Josh Not feeling up to a sig right now.
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A co-worker just got let go. Not unsual in this day and age, unfortunately. For me, this one was different in that it was my office "room-mate". It was without a doubt the most uncomfortable experience I have had in a long, long time (maybe ever). Watching her pack her boxes while crying and trying to call her husband was gut-wrenching. I'm sure that I'm not the only one this has happened to, but I was wondering what other people did in this situation. I'm really at a loss. Josh Not feeling up to a sig right now.
What to do? I don't know. Just remember that if you ever end up being an employer, exhaust every other means before deciding to fire someone.
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A co-worker just got let go. Not unsual in this day and age, unfortunately. For me, this one was different in that it was my office "room-mate". It was without a doubt the most uncomfortable experience I have had in a long, long time (maybe ever). Watching her pack her boxes while crying and trying to call her husband was gut-wrenching. I'm sure that I'm not the only one this has happened to, but I was wondering what other people did in this situation. I'm really at a loss. Josh Not feeling up to a sig right now.
I know exactly... My company let 23 people go on Monday (we were about 500 a few years back, but I guess that's shurnk a lot in the last few waves of redundancies -- I can't remember the last technical person employed). On Tuesday one part of our current star-project got transfered to another office 200 miles away, so the people who were busy on that are worried when the next round of layoffs is coming. Funny thing is, I'm more confident in my position than ever... after having no work for the last 15 months (my project has been on hold), I've survived 4 rounds of layoffs and then on Wednesday I got told that we're starting the project up again.... ... on the down side (in some respects), I'm getting married in 9 weeks time and we both work for the same company, so I'm seriously thinking about a change in job so that we don't have all of our eggs in a fragile basket (I've been there nearly 10 years and my finacee just 1, so it'd be better for me to move). Regards, Ray
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I know exactly... My company let 23 people go on Monday (we were about 500 a few years back, but I guess that's shurnk a lot in the last few waves of redundancies -- I can't remember the last technical person employed). On Tuesday one part of our current star-project got transfered to another office 200 miles away, so the people who were busy on that are worried when the next round of layoffs is coming. Funny thing is, I'm more confident in my position than ever... after having no work for the last 15 months (my project has been on hold), I've survived 4 rounds of layoffs and then on Wednesday I got told that we're starting the project up again.... ... on the down side (in some respects), I'm getting married in 9 weeks time and we both work for the same company, so I'm seriously thinking about a change in job so that we don't have all of our eggs in a fragile basket (I've been there nearly 10 years and my finacee just 1, so it'd be better for me to move). Regards, Ray
Ray Hayes wrote: I'm getting married in 9 weeks time and we both work for the same company :eek: GET OUT!!! HURRY!!! You are absolutely right.
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A co-worker just got let go. Not unsual in this day and age, unfortunately. For me, this one was different in that it was my office "room-mate". It was without a doubt the most uncomfortable experience I have had in a long, long time (maybe ever). Watching her pack her boxes while crying and trying to call her husband was gut-wrenching. I'm sure that I'm not the only one this has happened to, but I was wondering what other people did in this situation. I'm really at a loss. Josh Not feeling up to a sig right now.
You learn from the experience that from now on that you've got to find ways to protect your job against it. Time to improve communication skills. Leave that damn keyboard.
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A co-worker just got let go. Not unsual in this day and age, unfortunately. For me, this one was different in that it was my office "room-mate". It was without a doubt the most uncomfortable experience I have had in a long, long time (maybe ever). Watching her pack her boxes while crying and trying to call her husband was gut-wrenching. I'm sure that I'm not the only one this has happened to, but I was wondering what other people did in this situation. I'm really at a loss. Josh Not feeling up to a sig right now.
Maintain a good relationship with this person. She may be your 'in' when you're looking for a job. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
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Maintain a good relationship with this person. She may be your 'in' when you're looking for a job. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
Here's another twist in the tale. They've already hired a replacement (he starts on Monday). He used to work for us up until a year ago when he quit to be a full-time dad. He and I get along great, so I'm happy that he's coming back. But then I remember that someone just lost their job so he could come back, and that brings me right back down. I guess if it was fun and games all the time, they wouldn't call it work, would they? Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
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Here's another twist in the tale. They've already hired a replacement (he starts on Monday). He used to work for us up until a year ago when he quit to be a full-time dad. He and I get along great, so I'm happy that he's coming back. But then I remember that someone just lost their job so he could come back, and that brings me right back down. I guess if it was fun and games all the time, they wouldn't call it work, would they? Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
What they did may be illegal. You have to either have justification for getting rid of someone or be downsizing.
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What they did may be illegal. You have to either have justification for getting rid of someone or be downsizing.
Stuart van Weele wrote: What they did may be illegal. You have to either have justification for getting rid of someone or be downsizing. No doubt this differs from country to country and state to state, but I suspect that it depends on the terms of her employment. It is not uncommon these days to have provision for employees to take leave (paid or unpaid) for an extended period. If someone is hired specifically to take a person's position while they are on leave, then the job ends when they return. Edit. Re-reading Josh's post, he says that the other person actually quit his job. If he did genuinely resign, then you may be right that the action is illegal (assuming that there was no problem with the woman's work that could be used to justify dismissal). John Carson
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Ray Hayes wrote: I'm getting married in 9 weeks time and we both work for the same company :eek: GET OUT!!! HURRY!!! You are absolutely right.
João Paulo Figueira wrote: Ray Hayes wrote: I'm getting married in 9 weeks time and we both work for the same company GET OUT!!! HURRY!!! Uhhh... Of the impending marriage, or the job... :) ~MStanbrook
modified on Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:39 AM
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Stuart van Weele wrote: What they did may be illegal. You have to either have justification for getting rid of someone or be downsizing. No doubt this differs from country to country and state to state, but I suspect that it depends on the terms of her employment. It is not uncommon these days to have provision for employees to take leave (paid or unpaid) for an extended period. If someone is hired specifically to take a person's position while they are on leave, then the job ends when they return. Edit. Re-reading Josh's post, he says that the other person actually quit his job. If he did genuinely resign, then you may be right that the action is illegal (assuming that there was no problem with the woman's work that could be used to justify dismissal). John Carson
John Carson wrote: this differs from country to country and state to state Arizona is a so-called 'Right-to-Work' state, and you wouldn't believe the abuses people put up with because they don't know what that means. Employers claim that it gives them the right to terminate without cause, to require that employees work under intolerable conditions, and that they don't have to pay minimum wages. Employers and employees alike have failed to find out what the term means - essentially, you can't be required to join a union - and as a result we have an entire state where people are treated as slaves, and endure it in ignorance. A sharp California labor relations lawyer could retire in luxury here on a single class action lawsuit... Blatant violations of federal law are rampant here, but no one is interested in prosecuting. "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom
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João Paulo Figueira wrote: Ray Hayes wrote: I'm getting married in 9 weeks time and we both work for the same company GET OUT!!! HURRY!!! Uhhh... Of the impending marriage, or the job... :) ~MStanbrook
modified on Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:39 AM
In principle, you should never be married to a coworker, especially in times when employers have a light trigger. You may find both of you jobless, as you said in your post. So the answer is: get out of the job or, if it is not possible... well... hum... do you love her that much? ;) Congrats on the forthcoming event! Getting married is fun.
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A co-worker just got let go. Not unsual in this day and age, unfortunately. For me, this one was different in that it was my office "room-mate". It was without a doubt the most uncomfortable experience I have had in a long, long time (maybe ever). Watching her pack her boxes while crying and trying to call her husband was gut-wrenching. I'm sure that I'm not the only one this has happened to, but I was wondering what other people did in this situation. I'm really at a loss. Josh Not feeling up to a sig right now.
It says something about the management at your company that they didn't "protect" you from this. Josh Martin wrote: but I was wondering what other people did in this situation Find another job. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Here's another twist in the tale. They've already hired a replacement (he starts on Monday). He used to work for us up until a year ago when he quit to be a full-time dad. He and I get along great, so I'm happy that he's coming back. But then I remember that someone just lost their job so he could come back, and that brings me right back down. I guess if it was fun and games all the time, they wouldn't call it work, would they? Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
Hang on - they sacked one person so they can replace her with another ? Sue time...... The tigress is here :-D
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Here's another twist in the tale. They've already hired a replacement (he starts on Monday). He used to work for us up until a year ago when he quit to be a full-time dad. He and I get along great, so I'm happy that he's coming back. But then I remember that someone just lost their job so he could come back, and that brings me right back down. I guess if it was fun and games all the time, they wouldn't call it work, would they? Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
If that is how they treated her, how long before they do the same to you or your wife ? A company like that doesn't deserve your loyalty and certainly can't be trusted ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Hang on - they sacked one person so they can replace her with another ? Sue time...... The tigress is here :-D
I never said that the firing was unjustified. The person they let go no longer could keep up with the demands of the position. The job outgrew her skills. They hired someone who could handle the increased responsiblities. I was just wondering how other people dealt with friends getting fired at work. Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...