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  • A Abraham Andres Luna

    So I guess since you have to stop quoting movies and music lyrics, that eliminates like half your arsenal of jokes? Man that's tough having to come up with new jokes for the newsletters without quotes :(

    "Dreams really do come true."

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    Lost User
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    can continue quote them if we block EU from codeproject.

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    • A Abraham Andres Luna

      So I guess since you have to stop quoting movies and music lyrics, that eliminates like half your arsenal of jokes? Man that's tough having to come up with new jokes for the newsletters without quotes :(

      "Dreams really do come true."

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      just create a new account and claim you're from the US... are you sure that satire is not "fair use"? It is in the US...

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        can continue quote them if we block EU from codeproject.

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        just create a new account and claim you're from the US...

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          just create a new account and claim you're from the US... are you sure that satire is not "fair use"? It is in the US...

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Dean Roddey
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          People always over-play these things. No one is going to go after you for quoting a movie. A lot of people have gotten a financial free ride off the backs of content creators for a long time, and more action on the part of governments has been needed. But no one is going to waste time (and a lot of money) going after people who are doing things that aren't remotely causing any real financial damage. It would be counter-productive. But having more tools to go after web sites and companies who are doing real damage is a very good thing.

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          • D Dean Roddey

            People always over-play these things. No one is going to go after you for quoting a movie. A lot of people have gotten a financial free ride off the backs of content creators for a long time, and more action on the part of governments has been needed. But no one is going to waste time (and a lot of money) going after people who are doing things that aren't remotely causing any real financial damage. It would be counter-productive. But having more tools to go after web sites and companies who are doing real damage is a very good thing.

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            DRHuff
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            Yeah - because you can always trust governments and bureaucracies to do the right thing... :doh:

            Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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              Yeah - because you can always trust governments and bureaucracies to do the right thing... :doh:

              Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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              Dean Roddey
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              It's got nothing to do with the right thing. It's about practicality. You would go broke in a very short time, and accomplish nothing, if you tried to do those sorts of things. That was pretty well demonstrated in the US by record companies going after individuals. They spent a lot of money and actually went backwards. And, though I've not read the EU thing, if it's like the US, then it's primarily a civil thing. Unless you are involved in organized crime and/or doing large scale pirating, then government isn't remotely going to get involved. So it becomes a matter of being sued by the companies you are stealing from. And they, like the US record companies, cannot do that on any remotely significant scale. They will have to pick their fights where it really matters. The amount of money required to press a single case is pretty crazy, as is all legal activity pretty much. Unless you are going to save/get back quite a few times more than that, it's a counter-productive undertaking. I mean, the US has had these types of laws for a long time. Are they out going after people quoting movies? Of course not. They have gone after a fairly small number of really offensive offenders, who were raking in big bucks via copyright violations. And that's about all they can afford to do.

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                It's got nothing to do with the right thing. It's about practicality. You would go broke in a very short time, and accomplish nothing, if you tried to do those sorts of things. That was pretty well demonstrated in the US by record companies going after individuals. They spent a lot of money and actually went backwards. And, though I've not read the EU thing, if it's like the US, then it's primarily a civil thing. Unless you are involved in organized crime and/or doing large scale pirating, then government isn't remotely going to get involved. So it becomes a matter of being sued by the companies you are stealing from. And they, like the US record companies, cannot do that on any remotely significant scale. They will have to pick their fights where it really matters. The amount of money required to press a single case is pretty crazy, as is all legal activity pretty much. Unless you are going to save/get back quite a few times more than that, it's a counter-productive undertaking. I mean, the US has had these types of laws for a long time. Are they out going after people quoting movies? Of course not. They have gone after a fairly small number of really offensive offenders, who were raking in big bucks via copyright violations. And that's about all they can afford to do.

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                Dean Roddey wrote:

                It's got nothing to do with the right thing.

                A truer statement has never been made - actions by the government have NEVER been about "doing the right thing".

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Dean Roddey wrote:

                  It's got nothing to do with the right thing.

                  A truer statement has never been made - actions by the government have NEVER been about "doing the right thing".

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Dean Roddey
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                  Of course it's easy to take that position, though it's wrong. Governments are made up of people, and people sometimes do the right thing and sometimes do the wrong thing. Sometimes they do those by intent and sometimes by accident. But, for the most part, governments are the way they are because we make them that way. People complain all the time about the government, about schools, etc... but they then do exactly what makes those things the way they are.

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                  • D Dean Roddey

                    Of course it's easy to take that position, though it's wrong. Governments are made up of people, and people sometimes do the right thing and sometimes do the wrong thing. Sometimes they do those by intent and sometimes by accident. But, for the most part, governments are the way they are because we make them that way. People complain all the time about the government, about schools, etc... but they then do exactly what makes those things the way they are.

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                    realJSOP
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                    Dean Roddey wrote:

                    people sometimes do the right thing

                    Yeah, but once they get into government, they are corrupted (or are compelled to ignore their principles) by those already in office. Voting doesn't matter, because it doesn't matter who is elected. We should probably stop here because this is stepping solidly into soapbox material...

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • D Dean Roddey

                      Of course it's easy to take that position, though it's wrong. Governments are made up of people, and people sometimes do the right thing and sometimes do the wrong thing. Sometimes they do those by intent and sometimes by accident. But, for the most part, governments are the way they are because we make them that way. People complain all the time about the government, about schools, etc... but they then do exactly what makes those things the way they are.

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                      Nelek
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                      Dean Roddey wrote:

                      Governments are made up of people, and people sometimes do the right thing

                      mostly accidentally (at least governments)

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Dean Roddey wrote:

                        It's got nothing to do with the right thing.

                        A truer statement has never been made - actions by the government have NEVER been about "doing the right thing".

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                        -----
                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                        -----
                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Which is because noone can ever agree on what the "right thing" is.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Dean Roddey wrote:

                          people sometimes do the right thing

                          Yeah, but once they get into government, they are corrupted (or are compelled to ignore their principles) by those already in office. Voting doesn't matter, because it doesn't matter who is elected. We should probably stop here because this is stepping solidly into soapbox material...

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Dean Roddey
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                          Ever wondered why it doesn't matter so much who is elected? What part of that equation doesn't change depending on who is elected? The people of course. Think about it.

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                          • A Abraham Andres Luna

                            So I guess since you have to stop quoting movies and music lyrics, that eliminates like half your arsenal of jokes? Man that's tough having to come up with new jokes for the newsletters without quotes :(

                            "Dreams really do come true."

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Well, I didn't expect the Spanish inqui... Hold on. Someone's just kicked in my front door. I'd best go and see who it is.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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