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  • M Marc Clifton

    So my work PC rebooted some time in the middle of the night, and I'd forgotten to save a notepad file with some notes, and another app that contains my "engineering log notes". Needless to say, those edits (fortunately minor) were lost. My coworker has been using this for a month now, and hasn't had a single reboot from a Windows update: Disable Windows 10 Automatic Updates with Win Update Stop | NoVirusThanks[^] Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

    Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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    I've made the observation just a few days ago somewhere here in the lounge that the problem isn't in stopping updates...it's stopping the unwanted reboots. Subtle, but oh-so-important difference. I use WSUS to control what updates get offered to my systems, and I have my systems set up to prompt me when they find something new (nothing gets installed automatically). But once an update is installed and is waiting to reboot - you're still at MS's mercy. It doesn't sound like this particular utility is making the claim it can do anything to prevent the reboot. My current plan is to use some version of Windows Server as my next development VM. I've never had a server OS reboot unexpectedly, from NT 4 onward (as opposed to client OSes). Server versions will wait patiently for weeks and months.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      So my work PC rebooted some time in the middle of the night, and I'd forgotten to save a notepad file with some notes, and another app that contains my "engineering log notes". Needless to say, those edits (fortunately minor) were lost. My coworker has been using this for a month now, and hasn't had a single reboot from a Windows update: Disable Windows 10 Automatic Updates with Win Update Stop | NoVirusThanks[^] Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

      Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      Matias Lopez
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      A solution, ePost-It's!

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      Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

      I'll read this and I'll remember to be polite with Microsoft, Hahaha! Ballmer I Love This Company - YouTube[^] Yes, this updates are very annoying...

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      • L Lost User

        how come windows has so many "updates" but it doesn't get any better?

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        W Balboos GHB
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        Said the Red Queen to Alice: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place.".[^]

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • M Marc Clifton

          So my work PC rebooted some time in the middle of the night, and I'd forgotten to save a notepad file with some notes, and another app that contains my "engineering log notes". Needless to say, those edits (fortunately minor) were lost. My coworker has been using this for a month now, and hasn't had a single reboot from a Windows update: Disable Windows 10 Automatic Updates with Win Update Stop | NoVirusThanks[^] Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

          Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Mike Hankey
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          uSoft says they listen to their customers but how is that possible with there heads up there collective asses?

          I do all my own stunts, but never intentionally! JaxCoder.com

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            A better solution: use an application that doesn't lose your unsaved work if the computer restarts. :) Eg: Notepad++[^]


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            I use onenote attached to my onedrive cloud account. saves work automatically as you type and it is saved to the cloud and not my stupid laptop. I can also share workbooks/sections with other people if I want, all independent of my laptop/workstation. completely portable too. no need for stupid ass text apps, etc.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              So my work PC rebooted some time in the middle of the night, and I'd forgotten to save a notepad file with some notes, and another app that contains my "engineering log notes". Needless to say, those edits (fortunately minor) were lost. My coworker has been using this for a month now, and hasn't had a single reboot from a Windows update: Disable Windows 10 Automatic Updates with Win Update Stop | NoVirusThanks[^] Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

              Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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              Gary Wheeler
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              Hmm. I save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day. The same thing happens at home when I'm done with the laptop for the evening. Both of these help ensure that power loss crashes are less likely to bork an open file. They also allow my automated nightly backups unfettered access. This lets my Microsoft Updates run wild and free, just like nature intended. ;P

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              • G Gary Wheeler

                Hmm. I save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day. The same thing happens at home when I'm done with the laptop for the evening. Both of these help ensure that power loss crashes are less likely to bork an open file. They also allow my automated nightly backups unfettered access. This lets my Microsoft Updates run wild and free, just like nature intended. ;P

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                Rick York
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                there is nothing natural about anything microsoft does.

                "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  Said the Red Queen to Alice: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place.".[^]

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  Said the Red Queen to Alice: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place go far, far backwards.

                  We are talking about ms post 2006, aren't we?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • G Gary Wheeler

                    Hmm. I save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day. The same thing happens at home when I'm done with the laptop for the evening. Both of these help ensure that power loss crashes are less likely to bork an open file. They also allow my automated nightly backups unfettered access. This lets my Microsoft Updates run wild and free, just like nature intended. ;P

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    Dean Roddey
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                    But I've had them happen while I went to get something to eat. In all cases I had saved my work, but not everyone would do that just to go out to grab a bite.

                    Explorans limites defectum

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                      But I've had them happen while I went to get something to eat. In all cases I had saved my work, but not everyone would do that just to go out to grab a bite.

                      Explorans limites defectum

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Oh, I know they're a PITA. I'm just 'stirring the pot' a bit :-D.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        Oh, I know they're a PITA. I'm just 'stirring the pot' a bit :-D.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Forogar
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                        Ctrl+S is my favorite key combo. I use it roughly every 30 seconds or every time I stop to think or leave my chair for any reason. So far the only losses came from a disk failure on my work laptop. Luckily, I had recent backups so not a big loss.

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        • F Forogar

                          Ctrl+S is my favorite key combo. I use it roughly every 30 seconds or every time I stop to think or leave my chair for any reason. So far the only losses came from a disk failure on my work laptop. Luckily, I had recent backups so not a big loss.

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          That and Ctrl+Shift+S (Save All) in Visual Studio.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • S Slacker007

                            I use onenote attached to my onedrive cloud account. saves work automatically as you type and it is saved to the cloud and not my stupid laptop. I can also share workbooks/sections with other people if I want, all independent of my laptop/workstation. completely portable too. no need for stupid ass text apps, etc.

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                            Brisingr Aerowing
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                            I use OneNote as well. The sync is super useful.

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                            • R Rick York

                              there is nothing natural about anything microsoft does.

                              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Ahem[^]

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              • D dandy72

                                I've made the observation just a few days ago somewhere here in the lounge that the problem isn't in stopping updates...it's stopping the unwanted reboots. Subtle, but oh-so-important difference. I use WSUS to control what updates get offered to my systems, and I have my systems set up to prompt me when they find something new (nothing gets installed automatically). But once an update is installed and is waiting to reboot - you're still at MS's mercy. It doesn't sound like this particular utility is making the claim it can do anything to prevent the reboot. My current plan is to use some version of Windows Server as my next development VM. I've never had a server OS reboot unexpectedly, from NT 4 onward (as opposed to client OSes). Server versions will wait patiently for weeks and months.

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                                Mike Winiberg
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                                Server OSs are certainly much better at allowing you to control when they restart - however, I have noticed - at three sites now - that when there are significant updates waiting to be installed (ie a reboot is pending) performance sometimes degrades (especially SQL Server and DNS on the DCs) until you are essentially forced to reboot. It is however still under your control WHEN you reboot, so definitely much better. Watch out though as there are some programs that refuse to run under Server OSs, and some that have much more expensive licences to do so...

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  So my work PC rebooted some time in the middle of the night, and I'd forgotten to save a notepad file with some notes, and another app that contains my "engineering log notes". Needless to say, those edits (fortunately minor) were lost. My coworker has been using this for a month now, and hasn't had a single reboot from a Windows update: Disable Windows 10 Automatic Updates with Win Update Stop | NoVirusThanks[^] Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

                                  Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                  maze3
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                                  Windows 7 gave prompts to install updates (unless this was non-default settings which I set), which allowed for computer to run months without reboots. But Win10 I just get pissed off at the end of most days needing to check what mundane text file or sql script is not saved. Home computer I shutdown when not in use, only then to see that their are updates it will run. Where has the notification gone?

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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    Hmm. I save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day. The same thing happens at home when I'm done with the laptop for the evening. Both of these help ensure that power loss crashes are less likely to bork an open file. They also allow my automated nightly backups unfettered access. This lets my Microsoft Updates run wild and free, just like nature intended. ;P

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                    save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day.

                                    I do that too. My excuse was that I was feeling like crap and left work early that day. Not firing on all cylinders (actually, not sure there was fuel getting to the engine!)

                                    Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                      save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day.

                                      I do that too. My excuse was that I was feeling like crap and left work early that day. Not firing on all cylinders (actually, not sure there was fuel getting to the engine!)

                                      Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      My excuse was that I was feeling like crap and left work early that day. Not firing on all cylinders (actually, not sure there was fuel getting to the engine!)

                                      Been there, done that, have the prescriptions to deal with it. In my case, it's usually a migraine, and it feels like the pistons are all around 110% of their nominal diameter.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        So my work PC rebooted some time in the middle of the night, and I'd forgotten to save a notepad file with some notes, and another app that contains my "engineering log notes". Needless to say, those edits (fortunately minor) were lost. My coworker has been using this for a month now, and hasn't had a single reboot from a Windows update: Disable Windows 10 Automatic Updates with Win Update Stop | NoVirusThanks[^] Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.

                                        Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                        I have found that the group policy for Windows Update: “No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates” does still work for Win 10 if the policy “Configure Automatic Updates” is configured to perform scheduled installations of updates (Option 4). I have it set up this way and users are notified and can choose to reboot, schedule the reboot, or even ignore. The update policies can be confusing and contradict each other so configure as few of these policies as possible.

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                                        • M Mike Winiberg

                                          Server OSs are certainly much better at allowing you to control when they restart - however, I have noticed - at three sites now - that when there are significant updates waiting to be installed (ie a reboot is pending) performance sometimes degrades (especially SQL Server and DNS on the DCs) until you are essentially forced to reboot. It is however still under your control WHEN you reboot, so definitely much better. Watch out though as there are some programs that refuse to run under Server OSs, and some that have much more expensive licences to do so...

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                                          Mike Winiberg wrote:

                                          Watch out though as there are some programs that refuse to run under Server OSs, and some that have much more expensive licences to do so...

                                          The few I've come across are generally utilities that are free for client OSes, and paid-for for the Server editions. None of these will be necessary here - this is intended to be for a VM running only development tools (primarily VS). My MSDN license should already cover that.

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