The hands in the cookie jar
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I thought he started Fannie and Freddie? Anyway, it is irrelevant. They hand out loans. The fact they handed one to Trumps son doesnt mean anything. You are looking for a conspiracy where there isnt one. Why not assume that they thought it a good loan because his dad has loads of cash? Or that the building project has a lot of up side?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why not assume that they thought it a good loan because his dad has loads of cash?
That's inane - because "Dad" isn't required to cover his loans. Historically, "Dad-in-LaW" doesn't even pay his debts. The last I heard,the Kushner's aren't doing well - It is, sadly, possible to personally profit from these - but that makes him only a worse risk. And the Kushner's way of doing business[^] - as sleazy as Humps. Could there really be so many shady-looking deals going on with none of them being shady? Do you really believe he's not getting preferential treatment because of his connection to Hump? You'll believe what you want to believe - meanwhile, I have a great deal I can give you on a bridge in Brooklyn.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
We are not the United States that the US are, nor will we ever be.
Apparently so - most of Europe is slipping back into the fascist frame of mind that is the hallmark of its history. I sure wish those Oceans were wider. So frequently you squeeze in an opportunity to criticize the US/it's citizens. The valid conclusion is that things must be really shit where you are and you love trying to pretend it's worse elsewhere. Who knows - perhaps you'll be even more bitter after you accept that truth. Judging from the tenor of the posts in an early food-fight (with Tonald J. Dump - in the main thread), you appear to fit right in with the various Euro-Goose-Stepper-Wanna-be's.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
So frequently you squeeze in an opportunity to criticize the US/it's citizens
Ah, not meant to be directed at their citizens, nor their culture; I dislike the actions of the government, something that a lot of those citizens agree with. Same here, since I don't like our politicians either. They're often pushing some agenda, instead of being objective. As a dev, I'd expect them to list all options, and choose the best. Doesn't work that way.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
The valid conclusion is that things must be really sh*t where you are and you love trying to pretend it's worse elsewhere.
The European Union has been in crisis since it was implemented. We're not as unified as the Americans, we are not going to be a single block, and we are no superpower. Becoming one is dangerous even, as it would mean that the US might see us as "competition" somewhere down the line.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Who knows - perhaps you'll be even more bitter after you accept that truth.
To accept, I would have to understand what you are saying.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
you appear to fit right in with the various Euro-Goose-Stepper-Wanna-be's.
Sounds poetic, but you almost always do. So, googled "goose stepping".
Urban dictionary wrote:
Someone who blindly follows a political or religious movement for the sake of nationalism or imposing their views onto others
Hehe, that made my day :D I often said, and will keep repeating, that you should doubt everything. Unless you can explain your position and why, it is indeed a blind choice. So no, not following anyone blindly, and I would be a bit offended if you accepted my words without being critical.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why not assume that they thought it a good loan because his dad has loads of cash?
That's inane - because "Dad" isn't required to cover his loans. Historically, "Dad-in-LaW" doesn't even pay his debts. The last I heard,the Kushner's aren't doing well - It is, sadly, possible to personally profit from these - but that makes him only a worse risk. And the Kushner's way of doing business[^] - as sleazy as Humps. Could there really be so many shady-looking deals going on with none of them being shady? Do you really believe he's not getting preferential treatment because of his connection to Hump? You'll believe what you want to believe - meanwhile, I have a great deal I can give you on a bridge in Brooklyn.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Look, you dont know anything about this. You are grasping at straws and prepared to leap to the worst possible conclusion. How about calming down a bit, these firms make thousands of loans all the time, you have no evidence at all to suspect that they were forced to make a loan by Trump, to his son in law, or whatever the hell he is, I have never been able to work out who is and who isnt actually related to him.
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I thought he started Fannie and Freddie? Anyway, it is irrelevant. They hand out loans. The fact they handed one to Trumps son doesnt mean anything. You are looking for a conspiracy where there isnt one. Why not assume that they thought it a good loan because his dad has loads of cash? Or that the building project has a lot of up side?
Yeah, that's not what they do. Freddie Mac does not directly offer loans; instead they purchase loans that have been made by other businesses, and offer other services. Also, they've been around since Nixon, so no, they're not an Obama product. However. In the context of multi-family (rental property) loans, they're generally loan guarantors; meaning that they will take up the legal portion of debt collection if an individual defaults, for a fee. They are ubiquitous in the real estate loan industry; it would be difficult to find a lender that does not use Freddie Mac. That fact alone makes this article particularly stupid.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Look, you dont know anything about this. You are grasping at straws and prepared to leap to the worst possible conclusion. How about calming down a bit, these firms make thousands of loans all the time, you have no evidence at all to suspect that they were forced to make a loan by Trump, to his son in law, or whatever the hell he is, I have never been able to work out who is and who isnt actually related to him.
Not fair! You made me do this!
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I have never been able to work out who is and who isnt actually related to him.
I can give you a summery - it should help: Joseph Stalin El Diablo All Bridge Trolls Justin Bieber &etc[^] And, from the unmistakable family resemblance when he stands smugly, with his arms folded, we'd be negligent to leave out Benito Mussolini
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Not fair! You made me do this!
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I have never been able to work out who is and who isnt actually related to him.
I can give you a summery - it should help: Joseph Stalin El Diablo All Bridge Trolls Justin Bieber &etc[^] And, from the unmistakable family resemblance when he stands smugly, with his arms folded, we'd be negligent to leave out Benito Mussolini
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Look, you have TDS, get help.
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Yeah, that's not what they do. Freddie Mac does not directly offer loans; instead they purchase loans that have been made by other businesses, and offer other services. Also, they've been around since Nixon, so no, they're not an Obama product. However. In the context of multi-family (rental property) loans, they're generally loan guarantors; meaning that they will take up the legal portion of debt collection if an individual defaults, for a fee. They are ubiquitous in the real estate loan industry; it would be difficult to find a lender that does not use Freddie Mac. That fact alone makes this article particularly stupid.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
Clinton is in the chain somewhere, read about it years back. For sure he is involved in Fannie and Freddie and sub prime loans. Anyway, if they are as ubiquitous as you say, yeah, not surprised they are involved somewhere.
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Look, you have TDS, get help.
As said by a product of "ED" - with an particular emphasis on extreme "D"
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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That was one of your more pathetic replies - but it's the usual theme - when Hump and his gang of thieves do something, find some way to deflect and bring up the democrats. It all makes sense - people who have never grown up don't want a grownup to be president. They prefer the whining boy who's rapidly dragging this country into the third world.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
who's rapidly dragging this country into the third world.
How?
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Yep, continue to sleep while Trump and his crooks help themselves with your money.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
continue to sleep while Trump and his crooks help themselves with your money.
:omg: Have you seen any of the Democrats spending plans? Ocasio? Bernie? :wtf:
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.